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	<title>Comments on: Mera Joota Hai Iraqi!</title>
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		<title>By: Aarti</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4468</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay people, I think this post has had enough &#039;discussion&#039;. And really there is only so much that can be said about George Bush and Shoes, so I am shutting down comments...Lots of stuff to actually discuss, say K&#039;s post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://kafila.org/2008/12/27/oranges-in-kashmir-2008-elections-from-a-kashmiri-bloggers-perspective/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kashmir&lt;/a&gt;, the new &lt;a href=&quot;http://kafila.org/2008/12/25/surrogacy-politics-imrana-qadeer-mary-e-john/#comment-4457&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Surrogacy Bill&lt;/a&gt;, the new &lt;a href=&quot;http://kafila.org/2008/12/22/rajeev-dhavan-on-the-unlawful-activities-prevention-act/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;terror law&lt;/a&gt;...Go! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay people, I think this post has had enough &#8216;discussion&#8217;. And really there is only so much that can be said about George Bush and Shoes, so I am shutting down comments&#8230;Lots of stuff to actually discuss, say K&#8217;s post on <a href="http://kafila.org/2008/12/27/oranges-in-kashmir-2008-elections-from-a-kashmiri-bloggers-perspective/" rel="nofollow">Kashmir</a>, the new <a href="http://kafila.org/2008/12/25/surrogacy-politics-imrana-qadeer-mary-e-john/#comment-4457" rel="nofollow">Surrogacy Bill</a>, the new <a href="http://kafila.org/2008/12/22/rajeev-dhavan-on-the-unlawful-activities-prevention-act/" rel="nofollow">terror law</a>&#8230;Go! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Debarshi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debarshi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Puzzled, be careful too. You might turn out to be another duck whose reflexes would be challenged!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puzzled, be careful too. You might turn out to be another duck whose reflexes would be challenged!</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzled</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Puzzled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aarti, careful, you may be the one in danger of becoming a laughingstock. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aarti, careful, you may be the one in danger of becoming a laughingstock. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Aarti</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aarti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[puzzeled: because some of us are cheerfully unconstrained by national boundaries or identities when it comes to our peeves! When the whole world is a stage, as the bard said, how many more things to laugh at and make fun of dontcha thunk?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>puzzeled: because some of us are cheerfully unconstrained by national boundaries or identities when it comes to our peeves! When the whole world is a stage, as the bard said, how many more things to laugh at and make fun of dontcha thunk?</p>
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		<title>By: Shivam Vij</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shivam Vij]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Puzzled: because &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; Indians know the map of the world has countries other than India, Pakistan and America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puzzled: because <i>some</i> Indians know the map of the world has countries other than India, Pakistan and America.</p>
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		<title>By: Debarshi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debarshi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[because indians don&#039;t like the duck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because indians don&#8217;t like the duck.</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzled</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Puzzled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 05:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm... the arab threw and the american ducked.

Not sure why Indians are getting so excited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; the arab threw and the american ducked.</p>
<p>Not sure why Indians are getting so excited.</p>
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		<title>By: ranju radha</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ranju radha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are two possible readings
1) Bush should not have been insulted like this
2) a dog should not have been insulted by calling bush a dog

though i agree with the first case as any human shud not be insulted. BUt the given the context of America&#039;s iraq invasion i would stand by the journalist who threw shoe at Bush.

and abt cultural biases i was only looking at my cultural surroundings in india. i know nothing abt iraq.. but we conveniently name dogs to show our hatred such as Kaiser, Jimmy, Jawaharlal Nehru, Mahatma gandhi, hitler etc.. 
a killer is hidden in our humane interventions whter it be naming, throwing, burning ...

people who are being tortured by the lang. (even the standardisation of lang) will try to question each and every usage. it cant be limited to wrting research papers.. it s part of the day-to-day lived experience. it s a way of living!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are two possible readings<br />
1) Bush should not have been insulted like this<br />
2) a dog should not have been insulted by calling bush a dog</p>
<p>though i agree with the first case as any human shud not be insulted. BUt the given the context of America&#8217;s iraq invasion i would stand by the journalist who threw shoe at Bush.</p>
<p>and abt cultural biases i was only looking at my cultural surroundings in india. i know nothing abt iraq.. but we conveniently name dogs to show our hatred such as Kaiser, Jimmy, Jawaharlal Nehru, Mahatma gandhi, hitler etc..<br />
a killer is hidden in our humane interventions whter it be naming, throwing, burning &#8230;</p>
<p>people who are being tortured by the lang. (even the standardisation of lang) will try to question each and every usage. it cant be limited to wrting research papers.. it s part of the day-to-day lived experience. it s a way of living!</p>
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		<title>By: Aarti</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aarti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[certainly cultural biases need not be celebrated, but I am also of the opinion that to constantly mine language for this or that prejudice/bias/stereotype etc is to deprive it of much if its expressive power. A swear or an insult is precisely that, and I think we should have a less ideological and a more performative attitude when it comes to profanity. I am the last person to condone casteism, but I am also not so hot on this drive to constantly cleanse language. Further, we presume that the recipient of speech has no power to talk back. So i am not so invested frankly in navel-gazing about what anthropomorphic biases the Iraqi journalist was marshalling when he called bush a &#039;dog&#039;. There is a time certainly for that sort of exercise, but its tiresome for me to approach each and every action and situation in the world as if I&#039;m writing a research paper...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>certainly cultural biases need not be celebrated, but I am also of the opinion that to constantly mine language for this or that prejudice/bias/stereotype etc is to deprive it of much if its expressive power. A swear or an insult is precisely that, and I think we should have a less ideological and a more performative attitude when it comes to profanity. I am the last person to condone casteism, but I am also not so hot on this drive to constantly cleanse language. Further, we presume that the recipient of speech has no power to talk back. So i am not so invested frankly in navel-gazing about what anthropomorphic biases the Iraqi journalist was marshalling when he called bush a &#8216;dog&#8217;. There is a time certainly for that sort of exercise, but its tiresome for me to approach each and every action and situation in the world as if I&#8217;m writing a research paper&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ranju radha</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ranju radha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@aarti

what i can say about the hindi film &quot;kutte&quot; and &quot;khoon&quot; is that such ideological dilemmas arise from a cultural bias upon which one builds one&#039;s own ideas abt the world., whter it be dietary habit or marrying beta/betti.... the valorisation of &quot;khoon peena&quot; and the degradation of &quot;dogs&quot; (remember, many derogatory casteist remarks has connotations based on dog)...no need to mention honor killings...  so whether we argue or not, such cultural biases need not be celebrated. though one needs to respect differnce in culture. that&#039;s my view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aarti</p>
<p>what i can say about the hindi film &#8220;kutte&#8221; and &#8220;khoon&#8221; is that such ideological dilemmas arise from a cultural bias upon which one builds one&#8217;s own ideas abt the world., whter it be dietary habit or marrying beta/betti&#8230;. the valorisation of &#8220;khoon peena&#8221; and the degradation of &#8220;dogs&#8221; (remember, many derogatory casteist remarks has connotations based on dog)&#8230;no need to mention honor killings&#8230;  so whether we argue or not, such cultural biases need not be celebrated. though one needs to respect differnce in culture. that&#8217;s my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Aarti</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aarti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are several it seems. Here&#039;s another: http://play.sockandawe.com/

This one has his photograph, much more satisfying...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several it seems. Here&#8217;s another: <a href="http://play.sockandawe.com/" rel="nofollow">http://play.sockandawe.com/</a></p>
<p>This one has his photograph, much more satisfying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aman</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for link Shivam,
One of the many priceless comments come from Abdullah who says :

Comments: the best game in the NET. I sugesst to Bush  to do this business after 22 January. He will make a lot of fortune by makking this in reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for link Shivam,<br />
One of the many priceless comments come from Abdullah who says :</p>
<p>Comments: the best game in the NET. I sugesst to Bush  to do this business after 22 January. He will make a lot of fortune by makking this in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Aarti</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aarti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ranju radha

You need to lighten up a bit methinks ;) There&#039;s enough gloom and doom without manufacturing it constantly don&#039;t you think? Have you not heard the immortal Hindi film line &quot;kutte! main tera khoon pi jaaoonga!&quot;...now we could argue its not only insulting to dogs but also insulting to perfectly valid dietary choices. Nothing wrong with drinking blood, the English even make a sausage out of it called black pudding....but ah! no sausage can quite equal the nan-daal pleasure of paaji brandishing a shovel at a cringing villian....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ranju radha</p>
<p>You need to lighten up a bit methinks ;) There&#8217;s enough gloom and doom without manufacturing it constantly don&#8217;t you think? Have you not heard the immortal Hindi film line &#8220;kutte! main tera khoon pi jaaoonga!&#8221;&#8230;now we could argue its not only insulting to dogs but also insulting to perfectly valid dietary choices. Nothing wrong with drinking blood, the English even make a sausage out of it called black pudding&#8230;.but ah! no sausage can quite equal the nan-daal pleasure of paaji brandishing a shovel at a cringing villian&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ranju radha</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4321</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ranju radha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bush as dog

so what? i think one should not humiliate a dog like this. 
yea, it s a good for nothing computer game. after all the simulacra of WAR (on iraq or terror) will benefit only those weapon sellers.
 and our &#039;patriotic&#039; missions of &quot;war on terror&quot; will aid such global business only. The heroes of mumbai turnt into a weapon selling Ad, unfortunately. The world is of course a satire written with blood. How cruel!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bush as dog</p>
<p>so what? i think one should not humiliate a dog like this.<br />
yea, it s a good for nothing computer game. after all the simulacra of WAR (on iraq or terror) will benefit only those weapon sellers.<br />
 and our &#8216;patriotic&#8217; missions of &#8220;war on terror&#8221; will aid such global business only. The heroes of mumbai turnt into a weapon selling Ad, unfortunately. The world is of course a satire written with blood. How cruel!</p>
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		<title>By: Debarshi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debarshi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The journalist called Bush a dog. It&#039;s about effect sometimes, so don&#039;t be such a Maneka Gandhi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The journalist called Bush a dog. It&#8217;s about effect sometimes, so don&#8217;t be such a Maneka Gandhi.</p>
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		<title>By: Shivam Vij</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4316</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shivam Vij]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s even a game on throwing shows at Bush, and I think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kroma.no/2008/bushgame/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the site is Russian&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;!

Throwing shoes is insulting in India as well. I;ve seen fake funeral processions with a man&#039;s photo with several pairs shoes being carried away. The BSp&#039;s slogan in UP used to be &quot;tilak, tarazu aur talwar/ maaro inko jootay char&quot;. Brahmin, Vaish and Kshatriya castes, let&#039;s beat them up with shoes. This was double-edged coming from a Dalit community ordained by caste to take away dead buffaloes, skin them, use the hide for making shoes... the institutionalised humiliation was now being returned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s even a game on throwing shows at Bush, and I think <a href="http://www.kroma.no/2008/bushgame/" rel="nofollow"><strong>the site is Russian</strong></a>!</p>
<p>Throwing shoes is insulting in India as well. I;ve seen fake funeral processions with a man&#8217;s photo with several pairs shoes being carried away. The BSp&#8217;s slogan in UP used to be &#8220;tilak, tarazu aur talwar/ maaro inko jootay char&#8221;. Brahmin, Vaish and Kshatriya castes, let&#8217;s beat them up with shoes. This was double-edged coming from a Dalit community ordained by caste to take away dead buffaloes, skin them, use the hide for making shoes&#8230; the institutionalised humiliation was now being returned.</p>
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		<title>By: ranju radha</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ranju radha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why can&#039;t &quot;tolernt indians&quot; learn to respect the value of a dog. A dog is equally important as any human being. So, what is wrong in being sentimental abt a dog? 
and abt &#039;soleing&#039; Bush; the whole episode reveald the hidden anger of Iraqis towards the American invasion of iraq. Invasions of all kinds will be resisted. What do u think why Ram is being burnt in the South and not Ravana... 
der is no universal national/international god; &quot;Bushs of all kinds&quot; should remember it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why can&#8217;t &#8220;tolernt indians&#8221; learn to respect the value of a dog. A dog is equally important as any human being. So, what is wrong in being sentimental abt a dog?<br />
and abt &#8216;soleing&#8217; Bush; the whole episode reveald the hidden anger of Iraqis towards the American invasion of iraq. Invasions of all kinds will be resisted. What do u think why Ram is being burnt in the South and not Ravana&#8230;<br />
der is no universal national/international god; &#8220;Bushs of all kinds&#8221; should remember it.</p>
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		<title>By: Debarshi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2008/12/15/mera-joota-hai-iraqi/#comment-4312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debarshi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey raviramanathan, don&#039;t be so sentimental about a dog. learn something from the iraqi journalist - he didn&#039;t beat around bush; he aimed for him!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey raviramanathan, don&#8217;t be so sentimental about a dog. learn something from the iraqi journalist &#8211; he didn&#8217;t beat around bush; he aimed for him!</p>
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		<title>By: raviramanathan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raviramanathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey c&#039;mon at least bush took it in the right spirit. that bit about his IQ was unnecessary]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey c&#8217;mon at least bush took it in the right spirit. that bit about his IQ was unnecessary</p>
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		<title>By: Anand Rishi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anand Rishi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A befitting farewell for a fascist !]]></description>
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