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		<title>By: anglo_indian</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/03/12/and-then-suresh-sankhyan-wanted-to-do-the-post-mortem/#comment-7036</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 05:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Excuse the language as I am an Anglo and this is my Lingo: for bastards and bitches who are evil and wicked in this scrrewed up world today.&quot;&quot;

@ Barbara - why are u generalizing AI&#039;s here if that is your lingo then so be it.. why do u have to drag the entire AI community... You are a disgrace to AI&#039;s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Excuse the language as I am an Anglo and this is my Lingo: for bastards and bitches who are evil and wicked in this scrrewed up world today.&#8221;"</p>
<p>@ Barbara &#8211; why are u generalizing AI&#8217;s here if that is your lingo then so be it.. why do u have to drag the entire AI community&#8230; You are a disgrace to AI&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: monika</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i do agree that even amans,s own friends who were the part of this torture will avoid to give any statement on this issue i support and respect their viewpoint as this college will make their rest of the years in the college like a hell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i do agree that even amans,s own friends who were the part of this torture will avoid to give any statement on this issue i support and respect their viewpoint as this college will make their rest of the years in the college like a hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Why Aman Kachroo&#8217;s won&#8217;t be the last ragging death, and what his family should do &#171; Kafila</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why Aman Kachroo&#8217;s won&#8217;t be the last ragging death, and what his family should do &#171; Kafila]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shivam Vij</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shivam Vij]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Anant: Thanks for your thought-provoking comment. I think the fact that the police is not imaginative enough to put existing IPC provisions to use is precisely the reason why we need an anti-ragging law. Everything that happens by way of ragging is already covered in IPC. Wrongful confinement? Criminal intimidation? Injury? There are freshers who have approached the police and have had the policemen laugh at them. That&#039;s, sadly, why we need special laws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Anant: Thanks for your thought-provoking comment. I think the fact that the police is not imaginative enough to put existing IPC provisions to use is precisely the reason why we need an anti-ragging law. Everything that happens by way of ragging is already covered in IPC. Wrongful confinement? Criminal intimidation? Injury? There are freshers who have approached the police and have had the policemen laugh at them. That&#8217;s, sadly, why we need special laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Thyab Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Thyab Ali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Dears,

My heart goes out to each one of you who knew the child well enough and feel so cut up over this incident, think, that his murder was the plan for all others , innocent children , never to hear or see or have to face ragging ever again.

This must bring about a full stop and it can happen only with the life imprisonment be given to the Bastards and Bitches who are educated and uncivilized to the core. Rich parents who do not bother about how their kids are doing in the colleges knowing fully well their money and power can see them through the gates of the universities and colleges too.

Bring these parents of those culprits to the court and do not spare them, they are equally responsible for the ill grooming of their children .
They have played a silent part in making them criminals and must be made to serve a term in jail so that other parents will tell their children never to dream of even attempting to rag any one, not even their domestic helps kids at home or a poor soul on the road side too.

Punish the Principal and the senior staff who are fully aware of all the shit that goes on inside the college camps, and for the boarders its horror and sorrow combined.

May the sould of all departed due to ragging rest in peace amen. May the families of all these innocent victims be given the courage and strength to stand united and fight this evil and wicked act of Ragging . It is a criminal offence in Chennai- from 1992, as Loyola College banned 31 of the third year students then for ragging many of the first year students of which my eldest son was a two hour old on the college grounds and was lead out by these gangsters, bastards right under the senior professors nose and the dean of the student affairs was well aware of what was going on that fucken day.

I use these words as I have no feelings at all, after what did happen, my son would have turned out to be a No: 1 Tennes World Champion had these bastards not ragged him the very second hour of joining the college that day.

Excuse the language as I am an Anglo and this is my Lingo: for bastards and bitches who are evil and wicked in this scrrewed up world today.

Barbara.
Freelance Social Worker.(UAE)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dears,</p>
<p>My heart goes out to each one of you who knew the child well enough and feel so cut up over this incident, think, that his murder was the plan for all others , innocent children , never to hear or see or have to face ragging ever again.</p>
<p>This must bring about a full stop and it can happen only with the life imprisonment be given to the Bastards and Bitches who are educated and uncivilized to the core. Rich parents who do not bother about how their kids are doing in the colleges knowing fully well their money and power can see them through the gates of the universities and colleges too.</p>
<p>Bring these parents of those culprits to the court and do not spare them, they are equally responsible for the ill grooming of their children .<br />
They have played a silent part in making them criminals and must be made to serve a term in jail so that other parents will tell their children never to dream of even attempting to rag any one, not even their domestic helps kids at home or a poor soul on the road side too.</p>
<p>Punish the Principal and the senior staff who are fully aware of all the shit that goes on inside the college camps, and for the boarders its horror and sorrow combined.</p>
<p>May the sould of all departed due to ragging rest in peace amen. May the families of all these innocent victims be given the courage and strength to stand united and fight this evil and wicked act of Ragging . It is a criminal offence in Chennai- from 1992, as Loyola College banned 31 of the third year students then for ragging many of the first year students of which my eldest son was a two hour old on the college grounds and was lead out by these gangsters, bastards right under the senior professors nose and the dean of the student affairs was well aware of what was going on that fucken day.</p>
<p>I use these words as I have no feelings at all, after what did happen, my son would have turned out to be a No: 1 Tennes World Champion had these bastards not ragged him the very second hour of joining the college that day.</p>
<p>Excuse the language as I am an Anglo and this is my Lingo: for bastards and bitches who are evil and wicked in this scrrewed up world today.</p>
<p>Barbara.<br />
Freelance Social Worker.(UAE)</p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&amp;issueid=96&amp;task=view&amp;id=32013&amp;sectionid=4&amp;Itemid=1


The police are probing if Dr Abhinav Verma, the main accused, and three other students who ragged Amann Kachroo so mercilessly that it led to his death were shielded by the principal of Dr Rajender Prasad Medical College, where the incident took place.

Abhinav’s father is close to the medical college’s principal, Dr Suresh Sankhyan who resigned after the incident. The father, Dr D. K. Verma, is an assistant professor at the Indira Gandhi Medical College in Shimla.

The police believe Dr Sankhyan tried to hush up a ragging incident last year in which Abhinav and his friends was involved.

The four students — Ajay Verma, Naveen Verma and Mukul Sharma apart from Abhinav — were suspended for just two days in that incident. The case is still pending in a Kangra court.

In that episode, 23 students had managed to escape the hostel in September 2008, spent a night on a riverbank and reported the matter to the police the next day.

The police believe the authorities may have tried to hush up the death of Amann as the police were informed 43 hours after the ragging episode. The police were called only after he died and the college initially tried to pass it off as suicide.

Besides, Amann and other first- year students were being ragged by the accused for the past four months but the college took no action.

Amann’s father cried foul. “I suspect Amann was murdered.

The college administration is sheltering the accused. He was very tense since he joined the college.

He phoned me 10 minutes before he died,” Dr Rajender Kachroo said from Gurgaon.


Ask the father of Mr Abhinav Verma - Dr DK verma what does he think about his son- Abhivav Verma and how long can he shield him from the hands of law .His father is a doctor at Surgery Department,IGMC,Shimla.
Phone No of Dr DK Verma : std code : 177 2621675 (Residence)
http://www.igmcshimla.org/telephone.htm]]></description>
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<p>The police are probing if Dr Abhinav Verma, the main accused, and three other students who ragged Amann Kachroo so mercilessly that it led to his death were shielded by the principal of Dr Rajender Prasad Medical College, where the incident took place.</p>
<p>Abhinav’s father is close to the medical college’s principal, Dr Suresh Sankhyan who resigned after the incident. The father, Dr D. K. Verma, is an assistant professor at the Indira Gandhi Medical College in Shimla.</p>
<p>The police believe Dr Sankhyan tried to hush up a ragging incident last year in which Abhinav and his friends was involved.</p>
<p>The four students — Ajay Verma, Naveen Verma and Mukul Sharma apart from Abhinav — were suspended for just two days in that incident. The case is still pending in a Kangra court.</p>
<p>In that episode, 23 students had managed to escape the hostel in September 2008, spent a night on a riverbank and reported the matter to the police the next day.</p>
<p>The police believe the authorities may have tried to hush up the death of Amann as the police were informed 43 hours after the ragging episode. The police were called only after he died and the college initially tried to pass it off as suicide.</p>
<p>Besides, Amann and other first- year students were being ragged by the accused for the past four months but the college took no action.</p>
<p>Amann’s father cried foul. “I suspect Amann was murdered.</p>
<p>The college administration is sheltering the accused. He was very tense since he joined the college.</p>
<p>He phoned me 10 minutes before he died,” Dr Rajender Kachroo said from Gurgaon.</p>
<p>Ask the father of Mr Abhinav Verma &#8211; Dr DK verma what does he think about his son- Abhivav Verma and how long can he shield him from the hands of law .His father is a doctor at Surgery Department,IGMC,Shimla.<br />
Phone No of Dr DK Verma : std code : 177 2621675 (Residence)<br />
<a href="http://www.igmcshimla.org/telephone.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.igmcshimla.org/telephone.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: siddhartha hanjura</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[siddhartha hanjura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is a shame that we literate lot of the society get indulged in such henious activities.being a part of the same college where aman studied, i know what it is like to be in that part of the world.trust me it is exactly the same everywhere and no court has delivered a judgement which can shake the whole country,something like a death sentence or a life imprisonment.once the highest institution of law passes such a judgement this will stop.i hope asky rests in peace.and up there he is haoppy seeing all the efforts his parents and friends are making.love you amann]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is a shame that we literate lot of the society get indulged in such henious activities.being a part of the same college where aman studied, i know what it is like to be in that part of the world.trust me it is exactly the same everywhere and no court has delivered a judgement which can shake the whole country,something like a death sentence or a life imprisonment.once the highest institution of law passes such a judgement this will stop.i hope asky rests in peace.and up there he is haoppy seeing all the efforts his parents and friends are making.love you amann</p>
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		<title>By: Hemange Koul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hemange Koul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s a SHAME. It is really a grt loss.Read the news on 11th.What do we get of this? brief period of chaos and a few useless changes here and there. then? media turn to other interesting news. BUT PLZ
A systematic campaign should be taken out, to totally eradicate this practice of Ragging. The college authorities and the administrators should not show any tolerance for any kind of ragging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a SHAME. It is really a grt loss.Read the news on 11th.What do we get of this? brief period of chaos and a few useless changes here and there. then? media turn to other interesting news. BUT PLZ<br />
A systematic campaign should be taken out, to totally eradicate this practice of Ragging. The college authorities and the administrators should not show any tolerance for any kind of ragging.</p>
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		<title>By: Tangella Madhavi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tangella Madhavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The photo is a painful reminder that Aman just did not deserve all this ... 
He has striking similarities to Amit Sahai who &#039;committed suicide&#039; ( I have serious doubts over this ...)  after being brutally ragged. He left a suicide note naming nine seniors. At that time a lot of hue and cry was raised over the incident. But gradually the issue was relegated to backburner. 
Lets not let it happen anymore .... 
I have a film on ragging produced by PSBT. Please do let me know if it will be of any use ... to keep the fire alive. 
m&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photo is a painful reminder that Aman just did not deserve all this &#8230;<br />
He has striking similarities to Amit Sahai who &#8216;committed suicide&#8217; ( I have serious doubts over this &#8230;)  after being brutally ragged. He left a suicide note naming nine seniors. At that time a lot of hue and cry was raised over the incident. But gradually the issue was relegated to backburner.<br />
Lets not let it happen anymore &#8230;.<br />
I have a film on ragging produced by PSBT. Please do let me know if it will be of any use &#8230; to keep the fire alive.<br />
m&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: kumar maglam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kumar maglam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THE HRD ministry, human rights commission, UPA govt are spineless selfish institutions who want power with no responsibility. Everyone knows that
head of instutions and colleges are run by political rich people enjoying power and so they do not want to roll the blame game on themselves and leave the innocent fresher at the mercy of rowdy senior and college adminstration trying to save its face leaving the ragging victims
in a hopeless position.

When the anti ragging law is spineless why give false idea to newcomers that they are protected?
they write complaints and end up doing suicide or abused.

This false propaganda that they are protected should be no more otherwise more freshers like 
Aman Kachroo will be killed.

The  govt should first enact the law like child abuse or women abuse law . Such a serious matter which involves future generation should not be let on GUIDELINESS of Supreme court How IPC be a state matter to be passed by state  govt only show the nonserious attitude of the centre when ragging is a crime,How many more deaths does the govt need to think of students than political bigwigs running the educational instutions. Raghavan commitee recomndations to 
derecognise ,close , aid stopped where ragging is reported will stop the menace but why PMO office 
will sio weak not to implement it in spirit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE HRD ministry, human rights commission, UPA govt are spineless selfish institutions who want power with no responsibility. Everyone knows that<br />
head of instutions and colleges are run by political rich people enjoying power and so they do not want to roll the blame game on themselves and leave the innocent fresher at the mercy of rowdy senior and college adminstration trying to save its face leaving the ragging victims<br />
in a hopeless position.</p>
<p>When the anti ragging law is spineless why give false idea to newcomers that they are protected?<br />
they write complaints and end up doing suicide or abused.</p>
<p>This false propaganda that they are protected should be no more otherwise more freshers like<br />
Aman Kachroo will be killed.</p>
<p>The  govt should first enact the law like child abuse or women abuse law . Such a serious matter which involves future generation should not be let on GUIDELINESS of Supreme court How IPC be a state matter to be passed by state  govt only show the nonserious attitude of the centre when ragging is a crime,How many more deaths does the govt need to think of students than political bigwigs running the educational instutions. Raghavan commitee recomndations to<br />
derecognise ,close , aid stopped where ragging is reported will stop the menace but why PMO office<br />
will sio weak not to implement it in spirit</p>
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		<title>By: And then Suresh Sankhyan wanted to do the post-mortem &#171; StopRagging.org</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And then Suresh Sankhyan wanted to do the post-mortem &#171; StopRagging.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Why Aman Kachroo’s won’t be the last ragging death, and what his family should do &#171; StopRagging.org</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/03/12/and-then-suresh-sankhyan-wanted-to-do-the-post-mortem/#comment-5112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why Aman Kachroo’s won’t be the last ragging death, and what his family should do &#171; StopRagging.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anant M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anant M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why ? Why cannot the Kangra police use the reported statement of the Health Minister Bindal that on 6th March, that he asked the principal to  check ragging to lodge an FIR with gross negligence leading to death - citing Section 304 IPC ? That was the section under which the students were first booked. Now that the students are bumped up to Section 302, the principal can take the lesser charge.

Anyways, an arrest based on an FIR is just that. The chargesheet comes later. There is nothing in principle against case law doing the task of setting precedents in interpreting the IPC. There is a long albeit controversial history of using section 304 for gross medical negligence. 

As a matter of fact, special laws for dealing with offences like this have had very limited success in the past. What is the track record of laws like Atrocities against SC &amp; ST, Dowry death laws and so on? 

I dont mean to make a case against such laws, but just to say that this is absence of a special antiragging law is not such a big deal if the police really want to arrest the principal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why ? Why cannot the Kangra police use the reported statement of the Health Minister Bindal that on 6th March, that he asked the principal to  check ragging to lodge an FIR with gross negligence leading to death &#8211; citing Section 304 IPC ? That was the section under which the students were first booked. Now that the students are bumped up to Section 302, the principal can take the lesser charge.</p>
<p>Anyways, an arrest based on an FIR is just that. The chargesheet comes later. There is nothing in principle against case law doing the task of setting precedents in interpreting the IPC. There is a long albeit controversial history of using section 304 for gross medical negligence. </p>
<p>As a matter of fact, special laws for dealing with offences like this have had very limited success in the past. What is the track record of laws like Atrocities against SC &amp; ST, Dowry death laws and so on? </p>
<p>I dont mean to make a case against such laws, but just to say that this is absence of a special antiragging law is not such a big deal if the police really want to arrest the principal.</p>
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