The above facebook group is at almost 2,000 in number.

We attempted to get the main group reinstated, to no avail. Perhaps if it was an NGO in North America, it may have gotten more publicity. As it is, we are attempting to grow again.

Regards,
Obi

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Nivedita, I should have specified, activities like archiving material –audio, video, scanned copies of print –where in the absence of libraries stocking the same, the digital resources that are developed on the internet using open formats like blogs etc., become vulnerable. Example: say a digital reconstruction of the dalit story (involves converting information from on the ground resistance/activism into it). While the internet lends itself very well to this aspect of activism, we would eventually depend extensively on the records (data) accumulated here. That would be like having primary data out there –(uniquely vulnerable, perhaps) careful thought and mechanisms have to be worked out to overcome the kind of threats that are surfacing in related movements.

Internet can be only one dimension of a movement – let me reiterate there is no fear of the internet for activism, it has its problems, but, to locate the problem to the correct source is partly the solution.

Agree with the rest. Dissipation of energy of few English speaking internet savvy dalits is no bigger or lesser than energy loss of any other kind of activists. We would like to guard against it if possible, I was attempting to learn from the experience of this movement.

The former is one who only breaks and does not posses the skills or will to build. The usual profile is a high school drop in the west, may not be too different here. Hackers, however, are highly skilled programmers who want to learn and understand. If they were really trying to figure something of the FB codes, they would not be doing it this way.

- Don’t elevate juvenile Indians with plenty of free time to hacker status. And if the right wing has the real ‘hackers’, there is plenty of prime game that would really challenge their abilities.

- I am not an user of FB, not sure how it is structured and maintained; but in large public databases, the sys admin in charge of making sure things don’t kill the entire system –will shut the more vulnerable sections. An email alert is usually sent to prepare the users. He/she is rarely concerned with the content.

- FB probably does the same, they may not be aware how group A differs from group B, but if A attracts more crackers… then so and so action.

I am reading this post after a recent discussion regarding the shutting down of an FB group built around breast-feeding mothers. Somebody objected to the pictures of nursing mothers there, and started the same routine described here. If one connects these two, we would say, FB is anti-women etc etc…. but seriously doubt it.

Anyway the main reason for commenting is that activism that has an over dependence on the internet is problematic. For all its advantages and being the only democratic venue open for groups such as the dalits; it is a fairly uphill task to get activists to trust and use this medium more extensively. One of the reasons being we are few in numbers and tricks such as these can rapidly dissipate our energies (their goal). I agree with Chaitanya -a dedicated site is the way to go.

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i am a web designer and to be fair FB’s programmers must find it hard to belive that your account is getting hacked, and other’s arnt…

its much easier to assume, that someone has your admin id and keeps getting access to your password.

that said i doubt its any fault of yours, and suggest you guys just move to your own dedicated site

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Can I say ouch at the condescension?

We have been hacked regularly for a month. Sometimes every 8 hours or so.

We have during this month done the following.
1. Removed all group admins except mine, to ensure the attack couldn’t have come via them.
2. Ran virus scans on my computer to look for spyware and keyloggers.
3. Changed my password every 2-3 days. (and not the 123 kind) and every time an attack happened.
4. Switched me to a Linux desktop, just in case something was missed.
5. Disabled javascript in my browser, in case it was an XSS attack.
6. Logged all HTTP requests from my browser to look for unusual activity, but found nothing.

And two days ago I found (I am the creator of the Facebook group) that my account has been disabled by Facebook who decided that I was the source of abuse. The group was then taken over by hundred odd troll accounts who ran it into the ground. Today I think either deleted it (or declared it secret which works just as effectively.)

Thank you,
Nisha