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	<title>Comments on: Who&#8217;s at &#8216;Jihad&#8217;? : &#8216;Love Jihad&#8217; and the Judge in Kerala</title>
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		<title>By: sabrein</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-10051</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Devika/Dileep,
Recently Prabhu Deva Tamil actor who is already married and have three children married Nayan Thara. The marriage was according ao all Hindu rituals. Where are those LOVE JIHAD warriors and why they overlook such these incidents..?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Devika/Dileep,<br />
Recently Prabhu Deva Tamil actor who is already married and have three children married Nayan Thara. The marriage was according ao all Hindu rituals. Where are those LOVE JIHAD warriors and why they overlook such these incidents..?</p>
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		<title>By: Handsome Men, Harems and Hate Propaganda: The Indian Imagination of Love Jihad &#171; Meena Kandasamy</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-9697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Handsome Men, Harems and Hate Propaganda: The Indian Imagination of Love Jihad &#171; Meena Kandasamy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Since paranoia never exists in singularity and bad examples are rigorously emulated, a Karnataka High Court Bench constituting Justice Sreedhar Rao and Justice Ravi Malimath followed in these footsteps when a distraught Selvaraj filed a petition seeking custody of his daughter Selja. She was made to stay with her parents and asked to prove that her conversion was voluntary and her marriage, a bonafide love-match. Although Selja Raj said in open court that she had chosen Islam out of her own choice and not out of any kind of coercion, the Karnataka HC Bench displayed its ability to think independently. The court raised “serious suspicion regarding the statements of the petitioner’s daughter” and observed that “the case has ramifications for national security.” The court ordered the police to investigate this since it believed that such religious conversions “raised questions of unlawful trafficking of girls and women in the state.” [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Since paranoia never exists in singularity and bad examples are rigorously emulated, a Karnataka High Court Bench constituting Justice Sreedhar Rao and Justice Ravi Malimath followed in these footsteps when a distraught Selvaraj filed a petition seeking custody of his daughter Selja. She was made to stay with her parents and asked to prove that her conversion was voluntary and her marriage, a bonafide love-match. Although Selja Raj said in open court that she had chosen Islam out of her own choice and not out of any kind of coercion, the Karnataka HC Bench displayed its ability to think independently. The court raised “serious suspicion regarding the statements of the petitioner’s daughter” and observed that “the case has ramifications for national security.” The court ordered the police to investigate this since it believed that such religious conversions “raised questions of unlawful trafficking of girls and women in the state.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ravi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;The official lefties, however opportunistic they are, are the most powerful, organised voice of secularism in Kerala&#039;

Their secularism is just  a mask.The official left has no problem in joining hands with mullahs and reactionary elements when it wants to please muslims.The official left deported Taslima,
banned her book.The official left wants
islamic banking in India and is working for it
in Kerala.The non-official left may have some
differences with left but when it comes to appeasing muslims it is as &#039;good&#039; as the official left. Both will shed tears for Palenstine cause but will not bother about other similar movements elsewhere or those will not get equal attention. For the official left the genocide in Sudan is a taboo. I am skeptical about both - official and
non-official left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The official lefties, however opportunistic they are, are the most powerful, organised voice of secularism in Kerala&#8217;</p>
<p>Their secularism is just  a mask.The official left has no problem in joining hands with mullahs and reactionary elements when it wants to please muslims.The official left deported Taslima,<br />
banned her book.The official left wants<br />
islamic banking in India and is working for it<br />
in Kerala.The non-official left may have some<br />
differences with left but when it comes to appeasing muslims it is as &#8216;good&#8217; as the official left. Both will shed tears for Palenstine cause but will not bother about other similar movements elsewhere or those will not get equal attention. For the official left the genocide in Sudan is a taboo. I am skeptical about both &#8211; official and<br />
non-official left.</p>
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		<title>By: Dileep</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dileep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love and sex have no barriers. The hindutva hooligans want to hunt Muslim youths in the name of love jihad.  In fact, Religion of Islam is used by prominent Hindu and Muslim figures to satiate their sexual needs in an illegal manner.

On August 21, 1979 BJP leader and film actor, Mr. Dharmendra converted to Islam, changed his name to Dilawar Khan, got married to actress Hema Malini, as his first wife, Prakash Kaur, refused to divorce him. On records, Hema malini became Ayesha. By joining the organization of  &quot;Love JIHAD&quot; BJP leader cleverly escaped anti-bigamy laws under the Hindu Marriage Act of 1955. However, Dharmendra and Hema Malini, never accepted Islam as their religion though being married only after embracing Islam. Marriages those of Chander Mohan-Anuradha Bali and Dharmendra-Hema Malini are similar in nature.

Muslim actor, Raj Babbar married Hindu actress,  Smita Patil despite being already married to Zaheera, a muslim women.

On December 10, 2006, Major Chandrasekhar Pant, an army physician who was working for  Indira Gandhi Hospital in Afghanistan married a 20-year old Afghan woman from Kabul named Sabra Ahmadzai. 

Dr. Pant  already had wife and children back home in India, but did not mention it to Sabra or her family. He even converted to Islam, and changed his name to Himmat Khan, to marry Sabra. 

Before leaving Afghanistan, Dr Pant promised to take her to India.  After 2 years, she came to India looking for him. The Army doctor denied his marriage with her. However, in October 2009, a women judge in Delhi court ordered that the Army doctor is liable to compensate her Rs. 8,000 every month.

In a sensational disclosure of 2004, noted Tamil writer Anuradha Ramanan has alleged that Hindu pontiff, Kanchi Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati attempted to sexually abuse her in 1992. He was arrested with his junior, Vijayendra Saraswati in their alleged involvement in Shankara Raman murder case. The matter is still pending before the court.

While the Hindu seer dated more with RSS boys, his behavior may just tip the scales to classify him as a sex addict. RSS don’t promote marriage and sexual intercourse as a concept to build a family. Instead they believe in Sangh Parivar, the brotherhood of Hindu extremism and the front end leaders are compelled to live as bachelors in public life.

In December 2006, BJP general secretary and RSS insider Sanjay Joshi quit his party post after an audio cassette, and later a VCD, showing him in a compromising position with a woman. RSS always claims of Brahmacharya (vow of celibacy) about their leaders and members. Joshi, like all other members of RSS, is supposed to be celibate and the CD has exposed these claims.

In April 2007, Jayalakshmi, a nurse from Bangalore attempted suicide following endless sexual harassment by M P Renukacharya, a Hindu extremist party (BJP) legislator and the Chairman of the Karnataka State Electronics Development Corporation Ltd. She later released the pictures and videos of the sexual assault in front of the media.

In the same period , a quantity of locally-made Viagra and sex stimulants were recovered from the baggage of a senior Parliament Member of BJP. Babubhai Katara was arrested at Delhi airport for trying to fly with a woman and teenager to Toronto on the diplomatic passports of his family. He was arrested with one Paramjeet Kaur and a 15-year-old boy, Amarjeet Singh, who were posing as his wife and son.

Love affairs or sexual addiction is not so straightforward and courts cannot define any of such behavioural issues. Indian judiciary echoes cultural values of this land and the society. 

Indian myths consider sexuality with male supremacy. For eg, Lord Shiva is worshiped in the form of the phallus. Most people treat women like they treat their cows - both are said to be culturally revered in India but are ultimately desecrated and defiled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love and sex have no barriers. The hindutva hooligans want to hunt Muslim youths in the name of love jihad.  In fact, Religion of Islam is used by prominent Hindu and Muslim figures to satiate their sexual needs in an illegal manner.</p>
<p>On August 21, 1979 BJP leader and film actor, Mr. Dharmendra converted to Islam, changed his name to Dilawar Khan, got married to actress Hema Malini, as his first wife, Prakash Kaur, refused to divorce him. On records, Hema malini became Ayesha. By joining the organization of  &#8220;Love JIHAD&#8221; BJP leader cleverly escaped anti-bigamy laws under the Hindu Marriage Act of 1955. However, Dharmendra and Hema Malini, never accepted Islam as their religion though being married only after embracing Islam. Marriages those of Chander Mohan-Anuradha Bali and Dharmendra-Hema Malini are similar in nature.</p>
<p>Muslim actor, Raj Babbar married Hindu actress,  Smita Patil despite being already married to Zaheera, a muslim women.</p>
<p>On December 10, 2006, Major Chandrasekhar Pant, an army physician who was working for  Indira Gandhi Hospital in Afghanistan married a 20-year old Afghan woman from Kabul named Sabra Ahmadzai. </p>
<p>Dr. Pant  already had wife and children back home in India, but did not mention it to Sabra or her family. He even converted to Islam, and changed his name to Himmat Khan, to marry Sabra. </p>
<p>Before leaving Afghanistan, Dr Pant promised to take her to India.  After 2 years, she came to India looking for him. The Army doctor denied his marriage with her. However, in October 2009, a women judge in Delhi court ordered that the Army doctor is liable to compensate her Rs. 8,000 every month.</p>
<p>In a sensational disclosure of 2004, noted Tamil writer Anuradha Ramanan has alleged that Hindu pontiff, Kanchi Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati attempted to sexually abuse her in 1992. He was arrested with his junior, Vijayendra Saraswati in their alleged involvement in Shankara Raman murder case. The matter is still pending before the court.</p>
<p>While the Hindu seer dated more with RSS boys, his behavior may just tip the scales to classify him as a sex addict. RSS don’t promote marriage and sexual intercourse as a concept to build a family. Instead they believe in Sangh Parivar, the brotherhood of Hindu extremism and the front end leaders are compelled to live as bachelors in public life.</p>
<p>In December 2006, BJP general secretary and RSS insider Sanjay Joshi quit his party post after an audio cassette, and later a VCD, showing him in a compromising position with a woman. RSS always claims of Brahmacharya (vow of celibacy) about their leaders and members. Joshi, like all other members of RSS, is supposed to be celibate and the CD has exposed these claims.</p>
<p>In April 2007, Jayalakshmi, a nurse from Bangalore attempted suicide following endless sexual harassment by M P Renukacharya, a Hindu extremist party (BJP) legislator and the Chairman of the Karnataka State Electronics Development Corporation Ltd. She later released the pictures and videos of the sexual assault in front of the media.</p>
<p>In the same period , a quantity of locally-made Viagra and sex stimulants were recovered from the baggage of a senior Parliament Member of BJP. Babubhai Katara was arrested at Delhi airport for trying to fly with a woman and teenager to Toronto on the diplomatic passports of his family. He was arrested with one Paramjeet Kaur and a 15-year-old boy, Amarjeet Singh, who were posing as his wife and son.</p>
<p>Love affairs or sexual addiction is not so straightforward and courts cannot define any of such behavioural issues. Indian judiciary echoes cultural values of this land and the society. </p>
<p>Indian myths consider sexuality with male supremacy. For eg, Lord Shiva is worshiped in the form of the phallus. Most people treat women like they treat their cows &#8211; both are said to be culturally revered in India but are ultimately desecrated and defiled.</p>
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		<title>By: calicocentric</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calicocentric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author talks about a right wing Hindu civil society. Nobody would doubt her because you see well-nourished savarna looking ladies like Sobha Surendran, MS Unni (forgot her first name) and a bevy of others who would wax on the threat of love jihad in news rooms and various public fora.

On the other hand, do you have a Muslim civil society, either to the right or to the humanist side?

We all, I mean those from Kerala, know what ails the Muslim community in Kerala. The great majority of them are still in the clutches of arch reactionaries like that mullah who has been accused of doing to death Chekannur (who was a lone potential nucleus of a civil society). While Sobha Surendran can go to news room and wax beamingly about love jihad the Muslim women [nor any women not even women journalists] cannot go to a public meeting where this mullah speaks. And this mullah holds the vastest audience in Malabar. No national leader can fetch half as much as he.
 
The official lefties, however opportunistic they are, are the most powerful, organised voice of secularism in Kerala. In this case, don&#039;t we catch them on the wrong-foot? Don&#039;t blame it on the percolation of Hindu mindset alone. The judgment in question might very likely exemplify it (I don&#039;t know what data the leftist police fed). But there is another side to the whole affair and it has to do with their exclusivism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author talks about a right wing Hindu civil society. Nobody would doubt her because you see well-nourished savarna looking ladies like Sobha Surendran, MS Unni (forgot her first name) and a bevy of others who would wax on the threat of love jihad in news rooms and various public fora.</p>
<p>On the other hand, do you have a Muslim civil society, either to the right or to the humanist side?</p>
<p>We all, I mean those from Kerala, know what ails the Muslim community in Kerala. The great majority of them are still in the clutches of arch reactionaries like that mullah who has been accused of doing to death Chekannur (who was a lone potential nucleus of a civil society). While Sobha Surendran can go to news room and wax beamingly about love jihad the Muslim women [nor any women not even women journalists] cannot go to a public meeting where this mullah speaks. And this mullah holds the vastest audience in Malabar. No national leader can fetch half as much as he.</p>
<p>The official lefties, however opportunistic they are, are the most powerful, organised voice of secularism in Kerala. In this case, don&#8217;t we catch them on the wrong-foot? Don&#8217;t blame it on the percolation of Hindu mindset alone. The judgment in question might very likely exemplify it (I don&#8217;t know what data the leftist police fed). But there is another side to the whole affair and it has to do with their exclusivism.</p>
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		<title>By: Amamazed</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amamazed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOVE-JIHAD!!! 

JIHAD has been grossly MISUSED / ABUSED. Its not only ABUSED by MEDIA, but also ABUSED by clever / intelligent people, who do not understand the meaning of the word JIHAD.

JIHAD in simple terms means STRUGGLE. It is not salvation, nor a means of reaching heaven, nor awarded by VIRGINS in heaven, nor anything of that sort. These are all MYTHS.

Every person is doing his / her own JIHAD ((struggle)), whether Muslim or otherwise.

To comment on term coined by SANGH PARIVAR – LOVE-JIHAD. Even our police, honourable judges, and respected priests are falling prey in this issue!!!

a) Why is SANGH-PARIVAR silent, when GAURI CHIBBER marries SHAHRUKH KHAN and changes her name to GAURI KHAN (dropping her middle). Because she enjoys from CRORES and CRORES of RUPEES, earned by SHAHRUKH KHAN???

b) Why is SANGH-PARIVAR silent, when Sangeeta Bijlani dates with M. Azharuddin, fully knowing Azharuddin is married, and has kids from his first-wife??? Fairly-unknown BOLLYWOOD damsel, then rides a full-blown popularity, only after acquainting with Indian Captain M. Azharuddin who was at peak of his cricket-career. SANGH-PARIVAR is happy with this association.

c) REENA DUTTA marries AAMIR KHAN, has two children with him – dumps AAMIR KHAN after 15-years of marriage. Second in line is KIRAN RAO who quietly associates with AAMIR KHAN, marries because AAMIR has CRORES and CRORES of RUPEES.

d) MALAIKA ARORA, show-biz damsel – seduces ARBAAZ KHAN, marries him and adds KHAN as last name. They have a son, named ARHAAN. SANGH PARIVAR is again silent on this association, because of BOLLYWOOD KHAN’S crores of rupees is earned by Indian Government, through income tax.

Kerala state, Karnataka people, and overall Indian Girls / Women should know LOVE-JIHAD is an INVENTION of SANGH PARIVAR, only continue their onslaught against innocent Muslim youths, and to EXERCISE their rights over the RIGHTS of WOMEN, to choose a PARTNER of their CHOICE. I am amazed at innocence of Indian public.

Amamazed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE-JIHAD!!! </p>
<p>JIHAD has been grossly MISUSED / ABUSED. Its not only ABUSED by MEDIA, but also ABUSED by clever / intelligent people, who do not understand the meaning of the word JIHAD.</p>
<p>JIHAD in simple terms means STRUGGLE. It is not salvation, nor a means of reaching heaven, nor awarded by VIRGINS in heaven, nor anything of that sort. These are all MYTHS.</p>
<p>Every person is doing his / her own JIHAD ((struggle)), whether Muslim or otherwise.</p>
<p>To comment on term coined by SANGH PARIVAR – LOVE-JIHAD. Even our police, honourable judges, and respected priests are falling prey in this issue!!!</p>
<p>a) Why is SANGH-PARIVAR silent, when GAURI CHIBBER marries SHAHRUKH KHAN and changes her name to GAURI KHAN (dropping her middle). Because she enjoys from CRORES and CRORES of RUPEES, earned by SHAHRUKH KHAN???</p>
<p>b) Why is SANGH-PARIVAR silent, when Sangeeta Bijlani dates with M. Azharuddin, fully knowing Azharuddin is married, and has kids from his first-wife??? Fairly-unknown BOLLYWOOD damsel, then rides a full-blown popularity, only after acquainting with Indian Captain M. Azharuddin who was at peak of his cricket-career. SANGH-PARIVAR is happy with this association.</p>
<p>c) REENA DUTTA marries AAMIR KHAN, has two children with him – dumps AAMIR KHAN after 15-years of marriage. Second in line is KIRAN RAO who quietly associates with AAMIR KHAN, marries because AAMIR has CRORES and CRORES of RUPEES.</p>
<p>d) MALAIKA ARORA, show-biz damsel – seduces ARBAAZ KHAN, marries him and adds KHAN as last name. They have a son, named ARHAAN. SANGH PARIVAR is again silent on this association, because of BOLLYWOOD KHAN’S crores of rupees is earned by Indian Government, through income tax.</p>
<p>Kerala state, Karnataka people, and overall Indian Girls / Women should know LOVE-JIHAD is an INVENTION of SANGH PARIVAR, only continue their onslaught against innocent Muslim youths, and to EXERCISE their rights over the RIGHTS of WOMEN, to choose a PARTNER of their CHOICE. I am amazed at innocence of Indian public.</p>
<p>Amamazed.</p>
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		<title>By: Naveen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naveen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Devika, 

Have you made any effort at collecting some primary data on this issue to know the &quot;ground situation&quot; 

To be more specific, have you tried to contact the two girls from Kozhenchery, those who brought to siurface this whole issue . 

After all they are also part of the class &quot; women in kerala&quot; 

Without such primary data, which the Judge was able to fetch, how can one make a conclusion. Is it not primary that data leads to conclusion and not the other way round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Devika, </p>
<p>Have you made any effort at collecting some primary data on this issue to know the &#8220;ground situation&#8221; </p>
<p>To be more specific, have you tried to contact the two girls from Kozhenchery, those who brought to siurface this whole issue . </p>
<p>After all they are also part of the class &#8221; women in kerala&#8221; </p>
<p>Without such primary data, which the Judge was able to fetch, how can one make a conclusion. Is it not primary that data leads to conclusion and not the other way round.</p>
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		<title>By: K M Venugopalan</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K M Venugopalan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly;
It appears that no sensible person can believe the RSS stories about 4000 Hindu women &#039;missing&#039;, &#039;helplines&#039;, &#039;rescue&#039;, so on and so forth.. and hence, the court and a section of the Kerala Cops seem to feel the compulsion for lending authenticity to these stories...
Ain&#039;t we familiar with the Tehelka expose how Babu Bajrangi &#039;rescued&#039; in Gujarat, and later how Sri Ram Sene stepped in Karnataka for the rescue of Hindu women? 
If the common folk reasonably starts doubting the patriotism of the RSS, how else could they continue  the business ?
What for the Court &amp; and the Cops, then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly;<br />
It appears that no sensible person can believe the RSS stories about 4000 Hindu women &#8216;missing&#8217;, &#8216;helplines&#8217;, &#8216;rescue&#8217;, so on and so forth.. and hence, the court and a section of the Kerala Cops seem to feel the compulsion for lending authenticity to these stories&#8230;<br />
Ain&#8217;t we familiar with the Tehelka expose how Babu Bajrangi &#8216;rescued&#8217; in Gujarat, and later how Sri Ram Sene stepped in Karnataka for the rescue of Hindu women?<br />
If the common folk reasonably starts doubting the patriotism of the RSS, how else could they continue  the business ?<br />
What for the Court &amp; and the Cops, then?</p>
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		<title>By: dRiZzlE mOttambrum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dRiZzlE mOttambrum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The media and Sangh related organizations have propagated that more than 4000 women have been abducted by the so-called ‘love jihad’ and they are still missing. It would clear the confusion if they submit the details of those missing women to the Police or Court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media and Sangh related organizations have propagated that more than 4000 women have been abducted by the so-called ‘love jihad’ and they are still missing. It would clear the confusion if they submit the details of those missing women to the Police or Court.</p>
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		<title>By: Kumarpushp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kumarpushp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is problems  with hindu girls are getting married with muslims. majority of  our film actors are muslims.JK chief minister wife is hindu ,his sister got married to hindu,Khursheed ahmad wife is christian.the hindu ,Mr Ram wife is christian and so on.south Indian girls like fair muslim what is problem.I think problem with RSS who is thinking their population is reducing in number day in day out.thanks for muslim boy who are accepting hindu girls ,I think hindu judge should appriciate this in India.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is problems  with hindu girls are getting married with muslims. majority of  our film actors are muslims.JK chief minister wife is hindu ,his sister got married to hindu,Khursheed ahmad wife is christian.the hindu ,Mr Ram wife is christian and so on.south Indian girls like fair muslim what is problem.I think problem with RSS who is thinking their population is reducing in number day in day out.thanks for muslim boy who are accepting hindu girls ,I think hindu judge should appriciate this in India.</p>
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		<title>By: K M Venugopalan</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K M Venugopalan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Ravi and whosoever it may concern:
What is forced conversion?
Could the rituals involved in &#039;forced conversion&#039; be something like caste Hindus with their khaap panchayats forcing excreta into the mouths of dalits?

Or rather, could it be understood better in the light of the relevant Article guaranteeing the freedom of conscience, in the Constitution, which states that subject to public order,safety and morality, any person shall be free to profess , practice and propagate his faith? 

How can you (or even the Court )say that a Nair/Ezhava/Christian girl&#039;s desire to practice Islam for whatever reason( it could even be a motivation to live peacefully with her lover and the in laws without the hassles of religious hangovers!) is an instance of &#039;forced conversion&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ravi and whosoever it may concern:<br />
What is forced conversion?<br />
Could the rituals involved in &#8216;forced conversion&#8217; be something like caste Hindus with their khaap panchayats forcing excreta into the mouths of dalits?</p>
<p>Or rather, could it be understood better in the light of the relevant Article guaranteeing the freedom of conscience, in the Constitution, which states that subject to public order,safety and morality, any person shall be free to profess , practice and propagate his faith? </p>
<p>How can you (or even the Court )say that a Nair/Ezhava/Christian girl&#8217;s desire to practice Islam for whatever reason( it could even be a motivation to live peacefully with her lover and the in laws without the hassles of religious hangovers!) is an instance of &#8216;forced conversion&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: K M Venugopalan</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8033</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K M Venugopalan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Kerala and Karnataka Hcs by their recent pronouncements have not just trashed women&#039;s constitutional right to exercise their choices in marriage ,love,faith,etc as equal citizens, but these courts have also been betraying a pro-active mood to lend some degree of legitimacy to the RSS propaganda. 
Strange, this happens at a time when the whole country is revisiting memories of the shameful crime of demolition  of Babri Masjid and the listed leader-criminals under Liberhan Commission Report . The UPA Govt&#039;s characteristic soft attitude to the communal criminals is also now being challenged by the aam aadmi in  India, cutting across caste,class and religion!.

In Maharashtra, during 2008 the Cong-NCP Govt 
issued an order to investigate all marriages that had taken place over the preceding 3 years in which Hindu women converted to Islam in the context of inter faith love and marriage.
But this order has lately been withdrawn thanks to democratic protests. 

Even more strange, is the origin of such a controversial and unlawful order-  it is reportedly just that  two BJP MLAs had raised an issue in the Legislative Assembly that Muslims were  converting Hindu women to Islam  through love and marriage, in order to increase Muslim population in the country. &#039;Secular&#039; rulers had no hesitations to  instantly pass the orders to investigate over the conversions and marriages as alleged by people whom they routinely call communal!

Now, it necessitates a country wide campaign  to defend peoples&#039; constitutional and legal rights AGAINST  blatant encroachments BY COURTS!

 



Ruling]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kerala and Karnataka Hcs by their recent pronouncements have not just trashed women&#8217;s constitutional right to exercise their choices in marriage ,love,faith,etc as equal citizens, but these courts have also been betraying a pro-active mood to lend some degree of legitimacy to the RSS propaganda.<br />
Strange, this happens at a time when the whole country is revisiting memories of the shameful crime of demolition  of Babri Masjid and the listed leader-criminals under Liberhan Commission Report . The UPA Govt&#8217;s characteristic soft attitude to the communal criminals is also now being challenged by the aam aadmi in  India, cutting across caste,class and religion!.</p>
<p>In Maharashtra, during 2008 the Cong-NCP Govt<br />
issued an order to investigate all marriages that had taken place over the preceding 3 years in which Hindu women converted to Islam in the context of inter faith love and marriage.<br />
But this order has lately been withdrawn thanks to democratic protests. </p>
<p>Even more strange, is the origin of such a controversial and unlawful order-  it is reportedly just that  two BJP MLAs had raised an issue in the Legislative Assembly that Muslims were  converting Hindu women to Islam  through love and marriage, in order to increase Muslim population in the country. &#8216;Secular&#8217; rulers had no hesitations to  instantly pass the orders to investigate over the conversions and marriages as alleged by people whom they routinely call communal!</p>
<p>Now, it necessitates a country wide campaign  to defend peoples&#8217; constitutional and legal rights AGAINST  blatant encroachments BY COURTS!</p>
<p>Ruling</p>
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		<title>By: clash</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There might not be any organization called “love Jihad” but the whole houdini act of “love Jihad” that everyone is trying to believe is actually the by-product of a fear that is afflicted to some sections in the society and that cut across all religions and that is why immediately after it was said there was something like ‘love Jihad’ exists, even christian organizations in kerala went up in arms. even some organizations came out in support of the virulent sangh brigade in kerala vowing that they are going to fight hand-in-hand.

in an increasingly globalized situation where satellite channels beam programs based on loose western so called value system, some section is afflicted with a fear – what is happening to us? To counter this, as in the case of mental – illness they start rambling about a ghost that never exist.
traditionalists and purists, make hay while the sun is shining. It is easy to rope in insecure parents and adults, who seems to be puzzled with the onslaught of the change that our society is undergoing.

infact, i feel the change in societal norms are changing so fast in a culture like India, some who are scared has whipped up this. add to that, the current islamophobia, it is an easily sellable product.

while it is utterly ridiculous for love married couples to institutionalize any religion, be it the girl or boy. we have to understand something. The society as a whole it terribly unacceptable of these conditions. For love married couples, our society makes it difficult to live, if they dont comply the usual societal norms. probably, we will have to wait a lil more for such acceptance. The saddest part is that mostly woman is the one who is hounded with such societal pressure.

Love Jihad might or might not be existing, but what we need to accept is that we need to create an atmosphere were inter-religious and inter-caste marriages happen more and more. while we are eager to erase the chimera that love Jihad is, we tend to forget that we are also part of that cog that show unacceptability for inter-religious and inter-caste marriages. What we should strive is for such a situation by making people understand the importance of such a co-existence. Afterall they say, it is important for us to have these kinda relations as it will only strengthen our gene pool. anyway endogamy is a silent killer among hindus, i feel.

any which ways, now that T.Nazeer is nabbed and ammonium nitrate is being unearthed from the court yards of pious/religious brothers, it becomes increasingly difficult refute the claims of the Sangh and their equally abhorrent brothers in Christianity. Occasionally, i have also met some people who have changed their religion because increased co-habitation with nefarious elements. 

While it could be very immature to finger point any particular religion in this matter, it should also be noted that the flamboyance as a result of money (illegal and legal) which could be particularly attributed to some has been a luring factor in this whole issue. Now, i cant assert on this, if i do, i might sound like Babu Bajrangi.

truth is also that, there is terrible wave of radicalization that is being pushed down the corridors of our educational institutions also. escpecially, professional ones. students in my cousins college - a reputed govt med college, has been arguing for prayer rooms in hostel. while it could sound very stupid, it is not.  it could only be viewed as an assertion of religious authority by some section. there has been constant fracas between liberal and conservative students in the campus also.

so, rather than dismissing it in a whiff, i would say we need to have a better study of such situations and offer a much more balanced view point than a romantic secular perspective, like the one expressed here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There might not be any organization called “love Jihad” but the whole houdini act of “love Jihad” that everyone is trying to believe is actually the by-product of a fear that is afflicted to some sections in the society and that cut across all religions and that is why immediately after it was said there was something like ‘love Jihad’ exists, even christian organizations in kerala went up in arms. even some organizations came out in support of the virulent sangh brigade in kerala vowing that they are going to fight hand-in-hand.</p>
<p>in an increasingly globalized situation where satellite channels beam programs based on loose western so called value system, some section is afflicted with a fear – what is happening to us? To counter this, as in the case of mental – illness they start rambling about a ghost that never exist.<br />
traditionalists and purists, make hay while the sun is shining. It is easy to rope in insecure parents and adults, who seems to be puzzled with the onslaught of the change that our society is undergoing.</p>
<p>infact, i feel the change in societal norms are changing so fast in a culture like India, some who are scared has whipped up this. add to that, the current islamophobia, it is an easily sellable product.</p>
<p>while it is utterly ridiculous for love married couples to institutionalize any religion, be it the girl or boy. we have to understand something. The society as a whole it terribly unacceptable of these conditions. For love married couples, our society makes it difficult to live, if they dont comply the usual societal norms. probably, we will have to wait a lil more for such acceptance. The saddest part is that mostly woman is the one who is hounded with such societal pressure.</p>
<p>Love Jihad might or might not be existing, but what we need to accept is that we need to create an atmosphere were inter-religious and inter-caste marriages happen more and more. while we are eager to erase the chimera that love Jihad is, we tend to forget that we are also part of that cog that show unacceptability for inter-religious and inter-caste marriages. What we should strive is for such a situation by making people understand the importance of such a co-existence. Afterall they say, it is important for us to have these kinda relations as it will only strengthen our gene pool. anyway endogamy is a silent killer among hindus, i feel.</p>
<p>any which ways, now that T.Nazeer is nabbed and ammonium nitrate is being unearthed from the court yards of pious/religious brothers, it becomes increasingly difficult refute the claims of the Sangh and their equally abhorrent brothers in Christianity. Occasionally, i have also met some people who have changed their religion because increased co-habitation with nefarious elements. </p>
<p>While it could be very immature to finger point any particular religion in this matter, it should also be noted that the flamboyance as a result of money (illegal and legal) which could be particularly attributed to some has been a luring factor in this whole issue. Now, i cant assert on this, if i do, i might sound like Babu Bajrangi.</p>
<p>truth is also that, there is terrible wave of radicalization that is being pushed down the corridors of our educational institutions also. escpecially, professional ones. students in my cousins college &#8211; a reputed govt med college, has been arguing for prayer rooms in hostel. while it could sound very stupid, it is not.  it could only be viewed as an assertion of religious authority by some section. there has been constant fracas between liberal and conservative students in the campus also.</p>
<p>so, rather than dismissing it in a whiff, i would say we need to have a better study of such situations and offer a much more balanced view point than a romantic secular perspective, like the one expressed here.</p>
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		<title>By: jdevika</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jdevika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, informed sources from Jeddah tell me that the Imam of Mecca was married to a European woman who remained a Christian. So like in all faiths, different interpretations of marriage in Islam are possible.

But the point I made was not that some communities in Kerala are more open to inter-religious marriage than others. You are right in that they are all inimical. And it is accepted practice in post-matrilineal Kerala, however, wrong, that the wife should be joined with her husband&#039;s family.So why blame the muslims alone? And your justification of rightwing anti-Muslim anger the right response to state patronage of Islamic banking is not convincing to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, informed sources from Jeddah tell me that the Imam of Mecca was married to a European woman who remained a Christian. So like in all faiths, different interpretations of marriage in Islam are possible.</p>
<p>But the point I made was not that some communities in Kerala are more open to inter-religious marriage than others. You are right in that they are all inimical. And it is accepted practice in post-matrilineal Kerala, however, wrong, that the wife should be joined with her husband&#8217;s family.So why blame the muslims alone? And your justification of rightwing anti-Muslim anger the right response to state patronage of Islamic banking is not convincing to me.</p>
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		<title>By: ravi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/12/10/whos-at-jihad-love-jihad-and-the-judge-in-kerala/#comment-8023</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the &#039;left/secular&#039; forces are willing to join hands with islamic fundamentalist forces and defend islamic fundamentalist organizations and  appease them by initiating sharia compliant banking and support PDP and seek its support in elections, what is wrong if christian fundamentalists and hindu fundamentalists join hands to protect themselves from this  menace of &#039;left/secular&#039; and islamic fundamentalist alliance. 
Does Islam allow marriage of a Hindu/Christian woman and a muslim man with the condition that the woman would not convert to islam and would retain her right to practise her faith.How many organizations representing muslims are willing to grant such rights or recognise such marriages.
Can you answer this question?. Why is that in all these cases it is the girls who have undergone conversion and not the men. The court has every reasaon to caution against forced conversion. Right to practise faith does not include the right to convert or right to force conversion on any ground. This is the law of this land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the &#8216;left/secular&#8217; forces are willing to join hands with islamic fundamentalist forces and defend islamic fundamentalist organizations and  appease them by initiating sharia compliant banking and support PDP and seek its support in elections, what is wrong if christian fundamentalists and hindu fundamentalists join hands to protect themselves from this  menace of &#8216;left/secular&#8217; and islamic fundamentalist alliance.<br />
Does Islam allow marriage of a Hindu/Christian woman and a muslim man with the condition that the woman would not convert to islam and would retain her right to practise her faith.How many organizations representing muslims are willing to grant such rights or recognise such marriages.<br />
Can you answer this question?. Why is that in all these cases it is the girls who have undergone conversion and not the men. The court has every reasaon to caution against forced conversion. Right to practise faith does not include the right to convert or right to force conversion on any ground. This is the law of this land.</p>
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		<title>By: Dileep</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to my knowledge, the controversial judge Mr. K.T. Shankaran was a former member of Akhil Bharathiya Vidhyarthi Parishad, the student wing of RSS.  If you look at the legacy of the judging patterns of this hindu right wing man, i am sure that you will find him soon  in BJP ranks like Justice Guman Lal Lodha. In 2007,  Justice Shankaran along with Justice H L Dathu stayed  Raja Ravi Varma Award on artist MF Husain.  Almost all pro-Hindutva outfits have been raising that campaign against the Government’s move to fete Husain.

In 1949,  the Ayodhya  district magistrate K.K. Nair opened the locks of the Babri Masjid for Hindutva outfits. In return RSS provided him parliament membership. There are plenty of Judges and high ranking civil officials in the country who are breed by ABVP and ready to take the rule of law for their own agenda. These kind of Babu Bajrangi&#039;s don&#039;t have any respect to secular credentials of Republic of India. As long as the illiterate masses are the majority of this land, the upper caste mafia will controle the act of defining the law.

A 2005 countrywide survey done by Centre for Media Studies for Transparencey International finds that a very high 77 percent of respondents believe the Indian judiciary is corrupt.  The survey found that bribe  around 580 million US$ was paid during 12 months.  Money was paid to the officials in the following proportions: 61 percent to lawyers; 29 percent to court officials; 5 percent to middlemen.”

Between 1950 to 2000, 47% of Chief Justices and 40% of Judges were of Brahmin origin!. Dalits and Indian aborigines are lesser than 20 out of 610 judges working in Supreme Court and state high Courts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to my knowledge, the controversial judge Mr. K.T. Shankaran was a former member of Akhil Bharathiya Vidhyarthi Parishad, the student wing of RSS.  If you look at the legacy of the judging patterns of this hindu right wing man, i am sure that you will find him soon  in BJP ranks like Justice Guman Lal Lodha. In 2007,  Justice Shankaran along with Justice H L Dathu stayed  Raja Ravi Varma Award on artist MF Husain.  Almost all pro-Hindutva outfits have been raising that campaign against the Government’s move to fete Husain.</p>
<p>In 1949,  the Ayodhya  district magistrate K.K. Nair opened the locks of the Babri Masjid for Hindutva outfits. In return RSS provided him parliament membership. There are plenty of Judges and high ranking civil officials in the country who are breed by ABVP and ready to take the rule of law for their own agenda. These kind of Babu Bajrangi&#8217;s don&#8217;t have any respect to secular credentials of Republic of India. As long as the illiterate masses are the majority of this land, the upper caste mafia will controle the act of defining the law.</p>
<p>A 2005 countrywide survey done by Centre for Media Studies for Transparencey International finds that a very high 77 percent of respondents believe the Indian judiciary is corrupt.  The survey found that bribe  around 580 million US$ was paid during 12 months.  Money was paid to the officials in the following proportions: 61 percent to lawyers; 29 percent to court officials; 5 percent to middlemen.”</p>
<p>Between 1950 to 2000, 47% of Chief Justices and 40% of Judges were of Brahmin origin!. Dalits and Indian aborigines are lesser than 20 out of 610 judges working in Supreme Court and state high Courts.</p>
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