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		<title>Comment on Delhi Police Special Cell – Encounters, Frame-ups, Impunity: Manisha Sethi by Shama Zaidi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shama Zaidi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the delhi police is the most spineless chamcha organisation of all the police forces in our metros. is this because of the goi netas who expect them to bend and crawl or is it a relic of the mughal and british raj?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the delhi police is the most spineless chamcha organisation of all the police forces in our metros. is this because of the goi netas who expect them to bend and crawl or is it a relic of the mughal and british raj?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Delhi Police Special Cell – Encounters, Frame-ups, Impunity: Manisha Sethi by [Kafila] Delhi Police Special Cell – Encounters, Frame-ups, Impunity: Manisha Sethi &#171; Free Soni Sori and Lingaram Kodopi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[Kafila] Delhi Police Special Cell – Encounters, Frame-ups, Impunity: Manisha Sethi &#171; Free Soni Sori and Lingaram Kodopi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Samata Ravi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samata Ravi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good one Aruna and hartaman we have to do this more....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one Aruna and hartaman we have to do this more&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Understanding Indian human rights movements through the lives of two human rights defenders: Jinee Lokaneeta by kalpana kannabiran</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/21/understanding-indian-human-rights-movements-through-the-lives-of-two-human-rights-defenders-jinee-lokaneeta/#comment-26440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kalpana kannabiran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice article, Jinee. Only there are no two films that Deepa made as far as I know. Balagopal was interviewed as part of the making of The Advocate.  When he passed away unexpectedly, Deepa strung together his recordings and sent it as a personal gesture of sympathy to the family.  If someone ha actually turned the interviews into a film, it would be interesting to see, but as far as my knowledge goes, Deepa did not make a film on Balagopal.  But of course The Advocate is a comprehensive comment on the civil liberties movement, and its many leaders and protagonists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, Jinee. Only there are no two films that Deepa made as far as I know. Balagopal was interviewed as part of the making of The Advocate.  When he passed away unexpectedly, Deepa strung together his recordings and sent it as a personal gesture of sympathy to the family.  If someone ha actually turned the interviews into a film, it would be interesting to see, but as far as my knowledge goes, Deepa did not make a film on Balagopal.  But of course The Advocate is a comprehensive comment on the civil liberties movement, and its many leaders and protagonists.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by enu</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26438</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Guest111</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fantastic article! In my opinion Library.nu was the third most important site on the web after google and wikipedia and it is very unfortunate that it closed. For a nice discussion on why it should continue its operation and how it can be (legally) done read this:
http://e-library-free.blogspot.com/2012/02/free-illegal-knowledge-and-how-not-to.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fantastic article! In my opinion Library.nu was the third most important site on the web after google and wikipedia and it is very unfortunate that it closed. For a nice discussion on why it should continue its operation and how it can be (legally) done read this:<br />
<a href="http://e-library-free.blogspot.com/2012/02/free-illegal-knowledge-and-how-not-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://e-library-free.blogspot.com/2012/02/free-illegal-knowledge-and-how-not-to.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Anupama</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26427</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anupama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is it &quot;too early&quot; to discuss a universally open library system on the Internet, in which we all pay an annual fee (just as in print libraries) and withdraw four or five volumes per week, or more? Or why can&#039;t there be an alternative model for e-books at least, with reasonable pricing - such as two to four dollars per book? I was a member (and donor) at library.nu, and still am at any number of other similar websites. I paid what I could, gladly and voluntarily. At one stage an author came online to complain that his book was being pirated, and did online forum members know that they could buy an e-copy from Amazon for 99 cents only? Within a few days he was back to report that since posting on the forum, his sales had &quot;surged&quot;. People WILL pay, if they feel the price is right. Inspite of having downloaded heaven knows how many books from library.nu, I still bought, and continue to buy, as many print books as I can afford. It should have been pure and obvious logic, when the phenomenon first took off,  that e-books should have been priced cheaply. Damn all these short-sighted publishers to hell - they will pay, and dearly. I&#039;m still downloading happily, though perhaps this is not the place to disclose websites where  &quot;all izz (still) well&quot;...otherwise that Nazi coalition of copyright protectors will be down on them sooner than you can say &quot;lib rip&quot;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it &#8220;too early&#8221; to discuss a universally open library system on the Internet, in which we all pay an annual fee (just as in print libraries) and withdraw four or five volumes per week, or more? Or why can&#8217;t there be an alternative model for e-books at least, with reasonable pricing &#8211; such as two to four dollars per book? I was a member (and donor) at library.nu, and still am at any number of other similar websites. I paid what I could, gladly and voluntarily. At one stage an author came online to complain that his book was being pirated, and did online forum members know that they could buy an e-copy from Amazon for 99 cents only? Within a few days he was back to report that since posting on the forum, his sales had &#8220;surged&#8221;. People WILL pay, if they feel the price is right. Inspite of having downloaded heaven knows how many books from library.nu, I still bought, and continue to buy, as many print books as I can afford. It should have been pure and obvious logic, when the phenomenon first took off,  that e-books should have been priced cheaply. Damn all these short-sighted publishers to hell &#8211; they will pay, and dearly. I&#8217;m still downloading happily, though perhaps this is not the place to disclose websites where  &#8220;all izz (still) well&#8221;&#8230;otherwise that Nazi coalition of copyright protectors will be down on them sooner than you can say &#8220;lib rip&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by pilgrimhawk</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pilgrimhawk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lawrence Liang, you expressed so well what we all feel deep within  and more. Thanks a lot for this article.
But as well all believe, the spirit of learning never ends and so is the joy of sharing and collective growth.
The disappearance of library.nu is a big loss...bringing in a terrible sense of missing... perhaps one can build things anew brick-by-brick ...it is just that bricks are distributed :-) , it is a constraint as well as an advantage too. 
... these days when publishers compete and strike deals with universities to bring out customised textbooks with prohibitively unaffordable price tags, the only hope for the ones who cannot really afford to buy those books to study will be the surviving electronic versions ...yes the bricks must come together  and who can destroy a fortress spread across the globe, the one that will only continue to grow !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence Liang, you expressed so well what we all feel deep within  and more. Thanks a lot for this article.<br />
But as well all believe, the spirit of learning never ends and so is the joy of sharing and collective growth.<br />
The disappearance of library.nu is a big loss&#8230;bringing in a terrible sense of missing&#8230; perhaps one can build things anew brick-by-brick &#8230;it is just that bricks are distributed :-) , it is a constraint as well as an advantage too.<br />
&#8230; these days when publishers compete and strike deals with universities to bring out customised textbooks with prohibitively unaffordable price tags, the only hope for the ones who cannot really afford to buy those books to study will be the surviving electronic versions &#8230;yes the bricks must come together  and who can destroy a fortress spread across the globe, the one that will only continue to grow !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Screening Jashn-e-Azadi  at Presidency University, Kolkata: Waled Aadnan by Thrissur, New York, and a few besides &#171; Jashn-e-Azadi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/12/screening-jashn-e-azadi-at-presidency-university-kolkata-waled-aadnan-screening-jashn-e-azadi-at-presidency-university-kolkata-screening-jashn-e-azadi-at-presidency-university-kolkata/#comment-26423</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thrissur, New York, and a few besides &#171; Jashn-e-Azadi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] samizdat screening held last week at Presidency College, Kolkata, posted by one its organisers, Waled Adnan. Apart from an &#8216;alert&#8217; that appeared in the Indian Express, the coverage in the Kolkata [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] samizdat screening held last week at Presidency College, Kolkata, posted by one its organisers, Waled Adnan. Apart from an &#8216;alert&#8217; that appeared in the Indian Express, the coverage in the Kolkata [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on To the Students and Faculty of Symbiosis University on the Censors in their Midst by Thrissur, New York, and a few besides &#171; Jashn-e-Azadi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/01/31/to-the-students-and-faculty-of-symbiosis-university-on-the-censors-in-their-midst/#comment-26422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thrissur, New York, and a few besides &#171; Jashn-e-Azadi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Perhaps there is a lesson in this for those at the Symbiosis College in Pune (and the Pune Police) whose reaction was to crawl when they were simply asked to bend. Our previous post has some of the links to that story, but in case you missed those you could start with the excellent coverage in The Hindu. If you want to draw cheer from the sad goings on in Pune, there is an excellent post by a student of Symbiosis, Akshat Jitendranath. We like to think that Akshat had been provoked by a commentary a few days earlier on the same site by the redoubtable Shuddhabrata Sengupta. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Perhaps there is a lesson in this for those at the Symbiosis College in Pune (and the Pune Police) whose reaction was to crawl when they were simply asked to bend. Our previous post has some of the links to that story, but in case you missed those you could start with the excellent coverage in The Hindu. If you want to draw cheer from the sad goings on in Pune, there is an excellent post by a student of Symbiosis, Akshat Jitendranath. We like to think that Akshat had been provoked by a commentary a few days earlier on the same site by the redoubtable Shuddhabrata Sengupta. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Place of Dissent in the Campus: Akshath Jitendranath by Thrissur, New York, and a few besides &#171; Jashn-e-Azadi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/03/the-place-of-dissent-in-the-campusakshath-jitendranath-writes-from-symbiosis-university-pune/#comment-26421</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to draw cheer from the sad goings on in Pune, there is an excellent post by a student of Symbiosis, Akshat Jitendranath. We like to think that Akshat had been provoked by a commentary a few days earlier on the same site [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Jashn-e-Azadi successfully screened at Delhi University despite right-wing threats &amp; police pressure: AISA by Thrissur, New York, and a few besides &#171; Jashn-e-Azadi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/jashn-e-azadi-successfully-screened-at-delhi-university-despite-right-wing-hooligan-threats-and-police-pressureaisa/#comment-26420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thrissur, New York, and a few besides &#171; Jashn-e-Azadi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  AISA issued a statement which can be read here on [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Jashn-e-Azadi successfully screened at Delhi University despite right-wing threats &amp; police pressure: AISA by Usman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 points.
1 - I dont think you understand what i&#039;m tryin to say regarding the movie screening in Delhi University. Of course it is the prerogative of those identifying with progressive politics to get people to debate and discuss. i said so in my previous reply to you as well. i said i can appreciate your concern for the process of dialogue, but your reading about THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. if you call for a discussion on any issue and an outfit known for its brazen use of force in a university campus threatens to violently disrupt your discussion IF ANYONE ATTENDS IT, then you cant talk to them at that particular moment. had it not been for the efforts that were made, it very well might have been the case that the sociology department would have suffered material damages, and injuries to its members like the history department did suffer at the hands of these very same goons in the recent past. the process of dialogue needs to be fostered but it was simply not possible (even if you come from the most idealist position) in this event. so please let there be no doubt about that. in the other things which i&#039;m going to say below i will not mind as much if you disagree with me, but the point about this particular event needs to be understood without doubt. that point is not just about the kashmir issue, it is much more in fact an issue about the democratic space in one of the foremost Universities in the country. it is not just with regard to kashmir, but any other issue which if these guys feel goes counter to their politics, then they wont allow (in as far as their capacities allow) a public discussion of it in the university. my reason for making this point was not because i dislike the ABVP, but because it is something that is a telling commentary on the state of affairs in the university where certain outfits regularly use force or the threat of violence to disrupt what would be an open and democratic environment if allowed to be. this event is one more clear example of the anti-democratic nature of the ABVP and the Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena.

2 - i am not amazed. because i half expected you to read whatever you want to in my name, but i do not consider myself a muslim when i say what i do. neither do i identify with the kashmiri muslim. i cant, its as simple. there&#039;s no point to my mind in me trying to feel some brotherhood on the basis of religious identity. so please dont pigeonhole what i have to say by calling it some kind of muslim discourse where &#039;we&#039; always only look at the concern of &#039;our community&#039; and brainwash and dont care about what other communities feel. 
in an sensible discussion i would not need to declare my atheism or even anti-theism to claim legitimacy for what i&#039;m saying, because i have not made a single point on the basis of any kind of religious affiliation or communitarian identification. please try and understand also in all of this the violence we often commit by reading people through such particular identities, which often they do not associate with or even oppose. i dont need to be a muslim to talk about kashmir, and even if i am i dont need to be treated as a representative of &quot;the muslim community&quot; when weighing my arguments.
the points i have made previously are solely in the capacity of being a citizen. i.e. drawing from my membership of a particular nation state - India. and i believe i can make a claim from that position that i think that an army that acts in my name must not be allowed to treat a given set of people (those in kashmir, whoever they be) in the way they have treated them and continue to as well, that the AFSPA is a bad idea, etc.

and as far as the question of azadi goes, i by no means suggested that we should not think about it. or not criticise it. what i did is to criticise a tendency i often have encountered, with others and with myself. which is when we are faced with the situation as it is our concern becomes &quot;what does azadi mean, and what do they want?&quot; i dont think all kashmiris even know what they want. but a clear sentiment - brought out in sanjay kak&#039;s film - is there against what they see (and i wouldnt criticise this) as the occupation of the indian army. so all i said in my previous reply to you on this point was that as an indian the question of kashmir BEGINS WITH our obligation to account for what is happening in our name. we need to resolve that question before - and my position on that is that i do not want the army (which acts on orders of a government that acts in our name) to brutalise the lives of kashmiris - we can talk about what is the azadi they want. then we can think of us as even having a right to be party to the discussion about azadi, and disagreeing to it even. we can resolve the question of our obligation while even disagreeing with the question of what azadi entails. just because we dont agree with the idea of azadi (which in my understanding does not exist as a very coherent and fully laid out idea even for a majority of kashmiris) does not mean that we let the domination of the army over a people that resents it continue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 points.<br />
1 &#8211; I dont think you understand what i&#8217;m tryin to say regarding the movie screening in Delhi University. Of course it is the prerogative of those identifying with progressive politics to get people to debate and discuss. i said so in my previous reply to you as well. i said i can appreciate your concern for the process of dialogue, but your reading about THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. if you call for a discussion on any issue and an outfit known for its brazen use of force in a university campus threatens to violently disrupt your discussion IF ANYONE ATTENDS IT, then you cant talk to them at that particular moment. had it not been for the efforts that were made, it very well might have been the case that the sociology department would have suffered material damages, and injuries to its members like the history department did suffer at the hands of these very same goons in the recent past. the process of dialogue needs to be fostered but it was simply not possible (even if you come from the most idealist position) in this event. so please let there be no doubt about that. in the other things which i&#8217;m going to say below i will not mind as much if you disagree with me, but the point about this particular event needs to be understood without doubt. that point is not just about the kashmir issue, it is much more in fact an issue about the democratic space in one of the foremost Universities in the country. it is not just with regard to kashmir, but any other issue which if these guys feel goes counter to their politics, then they wont allow (in as far as their capacities allow) a public discussion of it in the university. my reason for making this point was not because i dislike the ABVP, but because it is something that is a telling commentary on the state of affairs in the university where certain outfits regularly use force or the threat of violence to disrupt what would be an open and democratic environment if allowed to be. this event is one more clear example of the anti-democratic nature of the ABVP and the Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; i am not amazed. because i half expected you to read whatever you want to in my name, but i do not consider myself a muslim when i say what i do. neither do i identify with the kashmiri muslim. i cant, its as simple. there&#8217;s no point to my mind in me trying to feel some brotherhood on the basis of religious identity. so please dont pigeonhole what i have to say by calling it some kind of muslim discourse where &#8216;we&#8217; always only look at the concern of &#8216;our community&#8217; and brainwash and dont care about what other communities feel.<br />
in an sensible discussion i would not need to declare my atheism or even anti-theism to claim legitimacy for what i&#8217;m saying, because i have not made a single point on the basis of any kind of religious affiliation or communitarian identification. please try and understand also in all of this the violence we often commit by reading people through such particular identities, which often they do not associate with or even oppose. i dont need to be a muslim to talk about kashmir, and even if i am i dont need to be treated as a representative of &#8220;the muslim community&#8221; when weighing my arguments.<br />
the points i have made previously are solely in the capacity of being a citizen. i.e. drawing from my membership of a particular nation state &#8211; India. and i believe i can make a claim from that position that i think that an army that acts in my name must not be allowed to treat a given set of people (those in kashmir, whoever they be) in the way they have treated them and continue to as well, that the AFSPA is a bad idea, etc.</p>
<p>and as far as the question of azadi goes, i by no means suggested that we should not think about it. or not criticise it. what i did is to criticise a tendency i often have encountered, with others and with myself. which is when we are faced with the situation as it is our concern becomes &#8220;what does azadi mean, and what do they want?&#8221; i dont think all kashmiris even know what they want. but a clear sentiment &#8211; brought out in sanjay kak&#8217;s film &#8211; is there against what they see (and i wouldnt criticise this) as the occupation of the indian army. so all i said in my previous reply to you on this point was that as an indian the question of kashmir BEGINS WITH our obligation to account for what is happening in our name. we need to resolve that question before &#8211; and my position on that is that i do not want the army (which acts on orders of a government that acts in our name) to brutalise the lives of kashmiris &#8211; we can talk about what is the azadi they want. then we can think of us as even having a right to be party to the discussion about azadi, and disagreeing to it even. we can resolve the question of our obligation while even disagreeing with the question of what azadi entails. just because we dont agree with the idea of azadi (which in my understanding does not exist as a very coherent and fully laid out idea even for a majority of kashmiris) does not mean that we let the domination of the army over a people that resents it continue.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by soumyajit</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26417</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[soumyajit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[plz reopen library.nu
its helping poor studious guys .......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plz reopen library.nu<br />
its helping poor studious guys &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by dimz alitz</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dimz alitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks! to Lawrence Liang for the article. It&#039;s a good info and broken my heart, due I lived in the third world that so difficult (and extremely expensive) to finds good  refferences in my country and only from this kinds of sites, like lybrary.nu, I could expanding knowledges. That&#039;s why i felt really sad knowing this site havebeen closed (by any reasons). 

Therefore I strongly agree with you (an academic). That&#039;s really true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks! to Lawrence Liang for the article. It&#8217;s a good info and broken my heart, due I lived in the third world that so difficult (and extremely expensive) to finds good  refferences in my country and only from this kinds of sites, like lybrary.nu, I could expanding knowledges. That&#8217;s why i felt really sad knowing this site havebeen closed (by any reasons). </p>
<p>Therefore I strongly agree with you (an academic). That&#8217;s really true.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by nishant</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nishant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wonder what the article (published on deforestation on 08.02.12) wanted to highlight primarily - the loss of forest which is happening all around Or the reasons for its fall! unfortunately, in both cases, it is missing woods for the trees with its narrow view!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonder what the article (published on deforestation on 08.02.12) wanted to highlight primarily &#8211; the loss of forest which is happening all around Or the reasons for its fall! unfortunately, in both cases, it is missing woods for the trees with its narrow view!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Student</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26402</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Student]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://gen.lib.rus.ec/

Library Genesis. Nowhere near as good, but at least its something. Has a lot of books re-uploaded from library.nu.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://gen.lib.rus.ec/" rel="nofollow">http://gen.lib.rus.ec/</a></p>
<p>Library Genesis. Nowhere near as good, but at least its something. Has a lot of books re-uploaded from library.nu.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Abu Talha Moment: Sanjay Kak by infinitchy</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/15/my-abu-talha-moment-sanjay-kak/#comment-26401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[infinitchy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Mr. Kak, Panun Kashmir is right wing. Maybe because all it asks for is a separate &#039;Indian&#039; homeland within Kashmir for Kashmiri Pandits, with constitutional guarantees for their safety. Well, concern for one&#039;s own safety doesn&#039;t sound right wing to me at all. It is believed that &#039;sold out&#039; Jews were responsible for most of the atrocities meted out at Nazi concentration camps. But I&#039;m sure the prisoners who were electrocuted and beaten up in Nazi camps by these traitor Jews were also labelled in a similar, ridiculous manner. Some tender hearted artists and writers, like Mr. Kak often compare Yasin Malik, the mass murderer of the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s with M.K. Gandhi, who probably did not even intentionally hurt a fly. Why are we even discussing such insanely distorted points of view in the mainstream media? Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from reasoning, does it? There&#039;s an excellent proverb in Arabic (Mr. Kak&#039;s favourite language) which goes something like &quot;The caravan passes while the dogs bark.&quot; Let the caravan of Indian democracy proceed in the direction of real freedom for Kashmiris, i.e. freedom from fundamentalism and religious conditioning. The dogs are free to bark. Mr. Kak, I agree, your documentary should be openly shown and obviously ignored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Mr. Kak, Panun Kashmir is right wing. Maybe because all it asks for is a separate &#8216;Indian&#8217; homeland within Kashmir for Kashmiri Pandits, with constitutional guarantees for their safety. Well, concern for one&#8217;s own safety doesn&#8217;t sound right wing to me at all. It is believed that &#8216;sold out&#8217; Jews were responsible for most of the atrocities meted out at Nazi concentration camps. But I&#8217;m sure the prisoners who were electrocuted and beaten up in Nazi camps by these traitor Jews were also labelled in a similar, ridiculous manner. Some tender hearted artists and writers, like Mr. Kak often compare Yasin Malik, the mass murderer of the 80&#8242;s and 90&#8242;s with M.K. Gandhi, who probably did not even intentionally hurt a fly. Why are we even discussing such insanely distorted points of view in the mainstream media? Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from reasoning, does it? There&#8217;s an excellent proverb in Arabic (Mr. Kak&#8217;s favourite language) which goes something like &#8220;The caravan passes while the dogs bark.&#8221; Let the caravan of Indian democracy proceed in the direction of real freedom for Kashmiris, i.e. freedom from fundamentalism and religious conditioning. The dogs are free to bark. Mr. Kak, I agree, your documentary should be openly shown and obviously ignored.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Jana</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26400</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...There should be a distinction made: Between works of authors still living and those of former lifes that left behind cultural gifts to the world. Everybody from the naked city in the midst of the jungle to the decaying metropolis of the western world should have a free access to these cultural gifts to reunderstand the past and future of humankind. Society never seems to be ready for this, although it is so well predestined...&quot; Interview with Marcel Türkowsky]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;There should be a distinction made: Between works of authors still living and those of former lifes that left behind cultural gifts to the world. Everybody from the naked city in the midst of the jungle to the decaying metropolis of the western world should have a free access to these cultural gifts to reunderstand the past and future of humankind. Society never seems to be ready for this, although it is so well predestined&#8230;&#8221; Interview with Marcel Türkowsky</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jashn-e-Azadi successfully screened at Delhi University despite right-wing threats &amp; police pressure: AISA by Red Devil (@Ranger98806)</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/jashn-e-azadi-successfully-screened-at-delhi-university-despite-right-wing-hooligan-threats-and-police-pressureaisa/#comment-26399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Devil (@Ranger98806)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Usman... as an Indian, the thing that comes first to my mind when it comes to Kashmir is the popular chant of swelling crowds in Srinagar and other places in Kashmir in 1989-90, when Kashmiri Pandits still lived in the valley, there was no army, and Kashmiri muslims thought freedom was just days away.

&quot;Let the Pandit men leave Kashmir , but let them leave their women behind&quot;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usman&#8230; as an Indian, the thing that comes first to my mind when it comes to Kashmir is the popular chant of swelling crowds in Srinagar and other places in Kashmir in 1989-90, when Kashmiri Pandits still lived in the valley, there was no army, and Kashmiri muslims thought freedom was just days away.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let the Pandit men leave Kashmir , but let them leave their women behind&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Samaritan</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samaritan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weap not: try bookfi[dot]org]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weap not: try bookfi[dot]org</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thinking About Sahir Ludhianvi by H.K.L. SACHDEVA</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2007/01/10/thinking-about-sahir-ludhianvi/#comment-26397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H.K.L. SACHDEVA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Farhaad,

I fully agree with you. You are very right, the lyrics

Main toh aashiq hoon raat kii syaahii kaa
Shamaa din ko jale toh main aataa nahin
Shamaa paigam hai merii tabaahii kaa

are from the movie &quot;Shadi&quot; and penned down by Janaab Amir Rajendra Krishan Sahab. I sincerely regret for the error.

However, recently, I came across something written by Sahir Sahab which touched me a lot. I am sharing it here to let people know of the depth to which Sahir Sahab was involved for the cause of the society.

ग़ज़ल - बहु जलाने का हक

ऊँचे ऊँचे नामों की तख्तियां जला देना,
ज़ुल्म करने वालों की वर्दियां जला देना &#124;

दरबदर भटकना क्या दफ्तरों के जंगल में,
बेलचे उठा लेना डिग्रियां जला देना &#124;
...
मौत से जो डर जाओ तो ज़िंदगी नहीं मिलती,
जंग जीतना चाहो तो कश्तियाँ जला देना &#124;

फिर बहु जलाने का हक तुम्हें पहुँचता है,
पहले अपने आँगन में बेटियाँ जला देना &#124;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Farhaad,</p>
<p>I fully agree with you. You are very right, the lyrics</p>
<p>Main toh aashiq hoon raat kii syaahii kaa<br />
Shamaa din ko jale toh main aataa nahin<br />
Shamaa paigam hai merii tabaahii kaa</p>
<p>are from the movie &#8220;Shadi&#8221; and penned down by Janaab Amir Rajendra Krishan Sahab. I sincerely regret for the error.</p>
<p>However, recently, I came across something written by Sahir Sahab which touched me a lot. I am sharing it here to let people know of the depth to which Sahir Sahab was involved for the cause of the society.</p>
<p>ग़ज़ल &#8211; बहु जलाने का हक</p>
<p>ऊँचे ऊँचे नामों की तख्तियां जला देना,<br />
ज़ुल्म करने वालों की वर्दियां जला देना |</p>
<p>दरबदर भटकना क्या दफ्तरों के जंगल में,<br />
बेलचे उठा लेना डिग्रियां जला देना |<br />
&#8230;<br />
मौत से जो डर जाओ तो ज़िंदगी नहीं मिलती,<br />
जंग जीतना चाहो तो कश्तियाँ जला देना |</p>
<p>फिर बहु जलाने का हक तुम्हें पहुँचता है,<br />
पहले अपने आँगन में बेटियाँ जला देना |</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stay Thirsty Stay Stupid by joe</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/03/stay-thirsty-stay-stupid/#comment-26395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminded of the tribals in plachimada of kerala, who fought the cadmium poisoning of cola
of an entire village . The tribals fought and some became even martyrs of exploitation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminded of the tribals in plachimada of kerala, who fought the cadmium poisoning of cola<br />
of an entire village . The tribals fought and some became even martyrs of exploitation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Syed Jainul Abedin</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syed Jainul Abedin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bunch of hypocrites here who continue to publish their work with proprietary publishers rather than mailing people all their work by pdf or hosting them on a free website and publicizing it by facebook - much like intellectuals who are in &#039;solidarity&#039; in movements, who egg on crowds but dare not to sweat. From the ashes of library.nu, what will arise is a bunch less hypocritical - who do not publish their work through commercial outlets but give back to the people their work ( that is , the same folks who pay their salary and their rum and coke).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunch of hypocrites here who continue to publish their work with proprietary publishers rather than mailing people all their work by pdf or hosting them on a free website and publicizing it by facebook &#8211; much like intellectuals who are in &#8216;solidarity&#8217; in movements, who egg on crowds but dare not to sweat. From the ashes of library.nu, what will arise is a bunch less hypocritical &#8211; who do not publish their work through commercial outlets but give back to the people their work ( that is , the same folks who pay their salary and their rum and coke).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Sadan Jha</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sadan Jha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[beautifully written piece Lawrence. you must be aware that on 20th Jan. a major spactacle of raid/crackdown was performed on the outskirts of Auckland, New Zealand. In a cordinated fashion, helicopters, local police and FBI team raided megaupload&#039;s headquarter and arraested Kim Dotcom. The crackdown was an outcome of pressure excercised by the lobby of Hollywood producers and music companies who had hired a battery of top notch lawers to force US government for such a measure. this was one of the most high profile raids in recent years. The closure of library.nu and  various other intermediary sites is another outcome of this spectacle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautifully written piece Lawrence. you must be aware that on 20th Jan. a major spactacle of raid/crackdown was performed on the outskirts of Auckland, New Zealand. In a cordinated fashion, helicopters, local police and FBI team raided megaupload&#8217;s headquarter and arraested Kim Dotcom. The crackdown was an outcome of pressure excercised by the lobby of Hollywood producers and music companies who had hired a battery of top notch lawers to force US government for such a measure. this was one of the most high profile raids in recent years. The closure of library.nu and  various other intermediary sites is another outcome of this spectacle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;NAPM condemns arrest and harassment of anti-dam protesters in Assam&#8217; by E. Dudley</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2011/12/27/napm-condemns-arrest-and-harassment-of-anti-dam-protesters-in-assam/#comment-26390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. Dudley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The World Bank estimates that forcible “development-induced displacement and resettlement” now affects 10 million people per year. According to the World Bank an estimated 33 million people have been displaced by development projects such as dams, urban development and irrigation canals in India alone.

India is well ahead in this respect. A country with as many as over 3600 large dams within its belt can never be the exceptional case regarding displacement. The number of development induced displacement is higher than the conflict induced displacement in India. According to Bogumil Terminski an estimated more than 10 million people have been displaced by development each year.

Athough the exact number of development-induced displaced people (DIDPs) is difficult to know, estimates are that in the last decade 90–100 million people have been displaced by urban, irrigation and power projects alone, with the number of people displaced by urban development becoming greater than those displaced by large infrastructure projects (such as dams). DIDPs outnumber refugees, with the added problem that their plight is often more concealed.

This is what experts have termed “development-induced displacement.” According to Michael Cernea, a World Bank analyst, the causes of development-induced displacement include water supply (dams, reservoirs, irrigation); urban infrastructure; transportation (roads, highways, canals); energy (mining, power plants, oil exploration and extraction, pipelines); agricultural expansion; parks and forest reserves; and population redistribution schemes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The World Bank estimates that forcible “development-induced displacement and resettlement” now affects 10 million people per year. According to the World Bank an estimated 33 million people have been displaced by development projects such as dams, urban development and irrigation canals in India alone.</p>
<p>India is well ahead in this respect. A country with as many as over 3600 large dams within its belt can never be the exceptional case regarding displacement. The number of development induced displacement is higher than the conflict induced displacement in India. According to Bogumil Terminski an estimated more than 10 million people have been displaced by development each year.</p>
<p>Athough the exact number of development-induced displaced people (DIDPs) is difficult to know, estimates are that in the last decade 90–100 million people have been displaced by urban, irrigation and power projects alone, with the number of people displaced by urban development becoming greater than those displaced by large infrastructure projects (such as dams). DIDPs outnumber refugees, with the added problem that their plight is often more concealed.</p>
<p>This is what experts have termed “development-induced displacement.” According to Michael Cernea, a World Bank analyst, the causes of development-induced displacement include water supply (dams, reservoirs, irrigation); urban infrastructure; transportation (roads, highways, canals); energy (mining, power plants, oil exploration and extraction, pipelines); agricultural expansion; parks and forest reserves; and population redistribution schemes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by habermasian</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[habermasian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@an academic
Enough with these lies. Publ. companies turn us to acomplices in the copyright crime, promising some kind of making a lion out of our mices. They capitalize on our efforts, ideas and ideals, networks and fantasies. It&#039;s time for a honest open dialogue on CopyLeft to overwhelm these perverts of Knowledge.Enlightnmenet, modern or not, is our axiomatic principle. LNU&#039;s withdrawal - I really hope they &#039;ll resurect - might be a chance for such a dialogue. Besides we all chat on this behind closed doors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@an academic<br />
Enough with these lies. Publ. companies turn us to acomplices in the copyright crime, promising some kind of making a lion out of our mices. They capitalize on our efforts, ideas and ideals, networks and fantasies. It&#8217;s time for a honest open dialogue on CopyLeft to overwhelm these perverts of Knowledge.Enlightnmenet, modern or not, is our axiomatic principle. LNU&#8217;s withdrawal &#8211; I really hope they &#8216;ll resurect &#8211; might be a chance for such a dialogue. Besides we all chat on this behind closed doors.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Nandita Jayaraj</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nandita Jayaraj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If all a journalist is expected to do is blindly quote from a report and a set of blatantly biased sources with obviously conflicted interests, then what is the point of journalism at all?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all a journalist is expected to do is blindly quote from a report and a set of blatantly biased sources with obviously conflicted interests, then what is the point of journalism at all?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by &#124; Edit Room</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#124; Edit Room]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] piece, here&#8217;s another by Lawrence Liang who seems to hold more hope than I dare to. Click here to read. Share [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Rex</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26383</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may not be called library.nu, but something will come to take its place. The internet has a long memory. As an example, Yahoo decided to shut down Geocities, a personal web publishing service from the early days of the public internet, until someone mirrored the entire site, so it lives on as a historic artifact from the late 90s at reocities.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may not be called library.nu, but something will come to take its place. The internet has a long memory. As an example, Yahoo decided to shut down Geocities, a personal web publishing service from the early days of the public internet, until someone mirrored the entire site, so it lives on as a historic artifact from the late 90s at reocities.com.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by An academic</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[An academic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Academic books never sold in the millions anyways like blockbusters. They are so prohibitively priced that they are either owned only by libraries or by those who get them for free for reviews. In such a scenario, the only people who buy these books remain the libraries. I fail to understand the joy of an academic who finds more satisfaction in a dozen copies of his/her work being sold to libraries than in 1000s reading it by any means. I am surprised at the Ozymanidan nature of an academic who seeks no permanence in the minds of the readers, rather in the relics of his/her works left in libraries. And to add a personal note, quite contrary to what some claim, readers like me, of books from gigapedia, on reading certain sections of books readily recommended them to our libraries. And as a principle I refuse to recommend books I know only the table of contents of. So more than an RIP to gigapedia, it is an RIP to all you self-confessed anti-piracy academics, who can live with the satisfaction of some libraries buying your books, which they were anyways, and now a much larger population never reading that single copy of your book in the library.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Academic books never sold in the millions anyways like blockbusters. They are so prohibitively priced that they are either owned only by libraries or by those who get them for free for reviews. In such a scenario, the only people who buy these books remain the libraries. I fail to understand the joy of an academic who finds more satisfaction in a dozen copies of his/her work being sold to libraries than in 1000s reading it by any means. I am surprised at the Ozymanidan nature of an academic who seeks no permanence in the minds of the readers, rather in the relics of his/her works left in libraries. And to add a personal note, quite contrary to what some claim, readers like me, of books from gigapedia, on reading certain sections of books readily recommended them to our libraries. And as a principle I refuse to recommend books I know only the table of contents of. So more than an RIP to gigapedia, it is an RIP to all you self-confessed anti-piracy academics, who can live with the satisfaction of some libraries buying your books, which they were anyways, and now a much larger population never reading that single copy of your book in the library.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Bookmarks 02/19/2012 &#171; Cairene&#039;s Nilometer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bookmarks 02/19/2012 &#171; Cairene&#039;s Nilometer]]></dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Gibreel</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26378</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gibreel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a more positive note, maybe, following the Hindu cyclical time logic of things on the internet - this is a good thing. Maybe we can use this hiatus, until the new library.nu comes along, to actually read some of the books we downloaded in those dizzying days until yesterday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more positive note, maybe, following the Hindu cyclical time logic of things on the internet &#8211; this is a good thing. Maybe we can use this hiatus, until the new library.nu comes along, to actually read some of the books we downloaded in those dizzying days until yesterday.</p>
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		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26377</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consolingly hopeful.. Thank you]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Gibreel</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gibreel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. I can&#039;t help feeling that with this - more than any of the other contemporary moves towards online censorship -  the internet itself has regressed. If Library.nu marked a leap forward in Internet time, we&#039;re now back to the European &quot;dark ages&quot;. And yet did we not see this coming? Did we not download as if we knew this couldn&#039;t last. 

There&#039;s an eerie homology between Firefox&#039;s  &quot;can&#039;t establish a connection to the server at library.nu.&quot; and Horace Smith&#039;s: &quot;I am great OZYMANDIAS..The King of Kings/ this mighty City shows The wonders of my hand.&quot; In both cases, &quot;Nought [remains] to disclose The (web)site of this forgotten Babylon.&quot; I think we tend to experience the finest aspects of the internet as if its annihilation is imminent. We downloaded as if we were going to be the future hunters who would encounter the sign and &quot;stop to guess/ What powerful but unrecorded race/ Once dwelt in that annihilated place.&quot; It was us. 

Absolute despair is not out of place. I know I haven&#039;t downloaded as many books as I could have. Why *didn&#039;t* I just spend all my time downloading simply *everything*? :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I can&#8217;t help feeling that with this &#8211; more than any of the other contemporary moves towards online censorship &#8211;  the internet itself has regressed. If Library.nu marked a leap forward in Internet time, we&#8217;re now back to the European &#8220;dark ages&#8221;. And yet did we not see this coming? Did we not download as if we knew this couldn&#8217;t last. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s an eerie homology between Firefox&#8217;s  &#8220;can&#8217;t establish a connection to the server at library.nu.&#8221; and Horace Smith&#8217;s: &#8220;I am great OZYMANDIAS..The King of Kings/ this mighty City shows The wonders of my hand.&#8221; In both cases, &#8220;Nought [remains] to disclose The (web)site of this forgotten Babylon.&#8221; I think we tend to experience the finest aspects of the internet as if its annihilation is imminent. We downloaded as if we were going to be the future hunters who would encounter the sign and &#8220;stop to guess/ What powerful but unrecorded race/ Once dwelt in that annihilated place.&#8221; It was us. </p>
<p>Absolute despair is not out of place. I know I haven&#8217;t downloaded as many books as I could have. Why *didn&#8217;t* I just spend all my time downloading simply *everything*? :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Grieving Person</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grieving Person]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heartbroken for the past week...]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by an academic</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[an academic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a huge difference between public places like parks, beaches and sites like gigapedia.info. I agree that something is terribly wrong with the current copyright system and I wonder how piracy on a massive scale facilitated by such sites will be a real solution to this.On the contrary distribution by such sites are used by publishers to argue that they discourage buying books and result in loss of revenue.This cant be dismissed as
a lie.  Academic books are often prohibitively expensive even for institutions.Some  academics may not be against others freely accessing their works through such sites but not all academics can be expected to support such sites because they affect sales of books
at least indirectly. And authors whose books dont sell well  as expected may not be preferred by publishers.If one is  an academic whose book is printed in limited numbers
say 1000 in first edition but is made available in the net for free and is being downloaded
in hundreds how should one respond to this. I know a case where an academic book was shared like this through a site with three links to download, within a week of its publication. But neither the publisher nor the author can keep an eternal watch over this. In the end the sales of the book are likely to be affected as the user(s) may prefer to download a copy than to recommend it to the library to buy as s/he has had free access. 

There problems with both current publishing/film industry model and the large scale piracy &#039;solutions&#039;.Lessig&#039;s piece does not address the issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a huge difference between public places like parks, beaches and sites like gigapedia.info. I agree that something is terribly wrong with the current copyright system and I wonder how piracy on a massive scale facilitated by such sites will be a real solution to this.On the contrary distribution by such sites are used by publishers to argue that they discourage buying books and result in loss of revenue.This cant be dismissed as<br />
a lie.  Academic books are often prohibitively expensive even for institutions.Some  academics may not be against others freely accessing their works through such sites but not all academics can be expected to support such sites because they affect sales of books<br />
at least indirectly. And authors whose books dont sell well  as expected may not be preferred by publishers.If one is  an academic whose book is printed in limited numbers<br />
say 1000 in first edition but is made available in the net for free and is being downloaded<br />
in hundreds how should one respond to this. I know a case where an academic book was shared like this through a site with three links to download, within a week of its publication. But neither the publisher nor the author can keep an eternal watch over this. In the end the sales of the book are likely to be affected as the user(s) may prefer to download a copy than to recommend it to the library to buy as s/he has had free access. </p>
<p>There problems with both current publishing/film industry model and the large scale piracy &#8216;solutions&#8217;.Lessig&#8217;s piece does not address the issues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Rajan Kurai Krishnan</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rajan Kurai Krishnan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 05:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for writing this. &quot;Private and collective grief&quot; describes it best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this. &#8220;Private and collective grief&#8221; describes it best.</p>
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		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Personal Concerns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[beautifully written!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Jashn-e-Azadi successfully screened at Delhi University despite right-wing threats &amp; police pressure: AISA by asha kachru</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/jashn-e-azadi-successfully-screened-at-delhi-university-despite-right-wing-hooligan-threats-and-police-pressureaisa/#comment-26370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[asha kachru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[usman, whilst on one hand you agree to the idea of pursuing debates and you want the progressive forces too to face the challanges, you contradict yourself then not trying to understand what i am trying to emphasize, namely the duty of us so-called progressive and more responsible type of people to create an environment to get the other party on the table, to learn to use such methods and techniques which will get them on the table. i know it is very difficult but i have come to the conclusion that there is no way out-we ALL need to learn to listen to the other side. also nobody has the final truth in his/her truth. 

secondly you again-like most (intellectuals too) muslims- do not talk about the reasons for the state of affairs, namely too much security forces, i agree, in the valley.and what the indian state has to sacrifice in terms of resources, both human and financial, to give security to the muslims in the valley. 

and you want to junk the question of azadi, why? whom do you have in mind? the non-Muslims too? the ladhakis, the dogras, the sikhs etc. etc.? no, you have only your own community in mind. this is the problem with you people, you are too self centered, muslim madrassas, muslim orphanages, Muslim function halls (even in viollages here)and even muslim tv channels with 24 hours brainwashing on Islam and the like. 

think for a moment what this reacts in the other religious people. to me or you it may not be making a difference, but the average Indian is a rather religious minded person.

so what i want to try happen is that we also try to listen to and understand what the Hindu fundamentalists  like in ABVP are saying and why. cant we be civilized enough to talk to each other rather, rather than just amongst ourselves, the progressive lot. 

i agree that i am more concerned about the impacts of islamic fundamentalism, al quaida, joshe mohmd, islamic brotherhood of even the arab spring movement and the negativities for women in islam, which is why i cannot leave your azadi discussion to itself. whom will they give azadi? think about it too. 

the women&#039;s view may also be included in the debate, so do read my latest 

http://www.indiaresists.com/azadi-slogan-in-kashmir-exclucivist-kashmiri-women/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>usman, whilst on one hand you agree to the idea of pursuing debates and you want the progressive forces too to face the challanges, you contradict yourself then not trying to understand what i am trying to emphasize, namely the duty of us so-called progressive and more responsible type of people to create an environment to get the other party on the table, to learn to use such methods and techniques which will get them on the table. i know it is very difficult but i have come to the conclusion that there is no way out-we ALL need to learn to listen to the other side. also nobody has the final truth in his/her truth. </p>
<p>secondly you again-like most (intellectuals too) muslims- do not talk about the reasons for the state of affairs, namely too much security forces, i agree, in the valley.and what the indian state has to sacrifice in terms of resources, both human and financial, to give security to the muslims in the valley. </p>
<p>and you want to junk the question of azadi, why? whom do you have in mind? the non-Muslims too? the ladhakis, the dogras, the sikhs etc. etc.? no, you have only your own community in mind. this is the problem with you people, you are too self centered, muslim madrassas, muslim orphanages, Muslim function halls (even in viollages here)and even muslim tv channels with 24 hours brainwashing on Islam and the like. </p>
<p>think for a moment what this reacts in the other religious people. to me or you it may not be making a difference, but the average Indian is a rather religious minded person.</p>
<p>so what i want to try happen is that we also try to listen to and understand what the Hindu fundamentalists  like in ABVP are saying and why. cant we be civilized enough to talk to each other rather, rather than just amongst ourselves, the progressive lot. </p>
<p>i agree that i am more concerned about the impacts of islamic fundamentalism, al quaida, joshe mohmd, islamic brotherhood of even the arab spring movement and the negativities for women in islam, which is why i cannot leave your azadi discussion to itself. whom will they give azadi? think about it too. </p>
<p>the women&#8217;s view may also be included in the debate, so do read my latest </p>
<p><a href="http://www.indiaresists.com/azadi-slogan-in-kashmir-exclucivist-kashmiri-women/" rel="nofollow">http://www.indiaresists.com/azadi-slogan-in-kashmir-exclucivist-kashmiri-women/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Library.nu R.I.P by Ben</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to say thank you for these words. Let&#039;s hope that this is not the end, but rather a beginning of something new.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say thank you for these words. Let&#8217;s hope that this is not the end, but rather a beginning of something new.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Evangeline Anderson-Rajkumar</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evangeline Anderson-Rajkumar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I  thank Aruna and also Hartman for their sustained prophetic voices of critique and for peeling off the mask of principalities and powers through their writing. I was happy, proud and full of hope when I read Aruna&#039;s article and also your response Hartman to know that we have people gifted with sharp insight to see beyond the lies and falsehood especially when they can distract you from core issue of justice for all. Thanks Aruna, Thanks Hartman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  thank Aruna and also Hartman for their sustained prophetic voices of critique and for peeling off the mask of principalities and powers through their writing. I was happy, proud and full of hope when I read Aruna&#8217;s article and also your response Hartman to know that we have people gifted with sharp insight to see beyond the lies and falsehood especially when they can distract you from core issue of justice for all. Thanks Aruna, Thanks Hartman.</p>
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		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/19/library-nu-r-i-p/#comment-26366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ibrahim Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very interesting piece!Thank you!!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Noor Sahab in Horror Land by Haseeb</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2010/12/19/noor-sahab-in-horror-land/#comment-26364</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haseeb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trend just continues.]]></description>
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		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/15/my-abu-talha-moment-sanjay-kak/#comment-26362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naveen jankar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but isnt the &quot;centrist&quot; Congress the real perpetrator of the Occupation? how come they never get bad publicity for what is happening in Kashmir?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but isnt the &#8220;centrist&#8221; Congress the real perpetrator of the Occupation? how come they never get bad publicity for what is happening in Kashmir?</p>
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		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26357</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uma V Chandru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent response to yet another biased WSJ article. If only WSJ had the guts to print  your response Aruna!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Some pictures from Occupy the World by Sunalini Kumar</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/09/some-pictures-from-occupy-the-world/#comment-26354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sunalini Kumar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rex, Owl and Venkat, allow me to point out the irony of your accusations of black and white reasoning on my part, given that it was Rex who first demonstrated his fine grasp of nuance with the following declaration, &quot;This is Kafila, a site run by people who still think socialism is a wonderful form of government, despite all evidence to the contrary. Also, you can either have full blown socialism, or US style robber baron capitalism with absolutely no hope for a middle path.&quot; 
This, despite most of us on Kafila never having unitedly avowed allegiance to a Thing Called Socialism, despite the hundreds, perhaps thousands of debates we&#039;ve had here bringing in various points of view ranging from libertarian anarchism to democratic socialism to the new left, to pro-State and anti-State. Sure, we are all more or less committed to a critique of the world we live in; and many of us recognise that a big part of the contemporary world is composed of capitalist forms of making wealth. But beyond this broad consensus, there is a massive amount of creative disagreement on the pages of Kafila, since there is in fact a rich and complex reality of economic systems beyond capitalism, some of which identify formally as socialist and many which don&#039;t. You in fact are guilty of DOGMA (to borrow the owl&#039;s love for capslock) since while you are perfectly willing to see capitalism as a diverse system, with hundreds of local variations and several gradations from &#039;unchecked greed&#039; to well, checked greed, I suppose; you are not willing to perform the same exercise for socialism. Oh no, socialism is gulags and Stalin and that tired old stereotype that Rex was so nice to share with us - socialism is the stupid, childish belief that people will produce wealth without incentive, or that once they produce wealth, they will give it away. No, sirs, a critique of capitalism does not spring from naivete; it springs from rage at its lies and illusions. As Aditya said, capitalists need to spend billions of dollars to convince us that without consuming and producing within this system, we are nothing, we cease to exist. Humans have existed before capitalism and will continue afterwards, if we don&#039;t manage to destroy ourselves completely, that is. And please don&#039;t tell me humans have always traded with each other, so capitalism is as old as civilisation. Even wikipedia won&#039;t say that. Indeed, I think Aditya was being generous; a good wikipedia session would still produce a more complex and nuanced knowledge than the &#039;arguments&#039; displayed here. 
And of course not, sarcasm is certainly not required. But if you want to start the debate by your sweeping summary of an entire website and all its content in a couple of banal sentences, then sarcasm may be a better response than others that come to mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, Owl and Venkat, allow me to point out the irony of your accusations of black and white reasoning on my part, given that it was Rex who first demonstrated his fine grasp of nuance with the following declaration, &#8220;This is Kafila, a site run by people who still think socialism is a wonderful form of government, despite all evidence to the contrary. Also, you can either have full blown socialism, or US style robber baron capitalism with absolutely no hope for a middle path.&#8221;<br />
This, despite most of us on Kafila never having unitedly avowed allegiance to a Thing Called Socialism, despite the hundreds, perhaps thousands of debates we&#8217;ve had here bringing in various points of view ranging from libertarian anarchism to democratic socialism to the new left, to pro-State and anti-State. Sure, we are all more or less committed to a critique of the world we live in; and many of us recognise that a big part of the contemporary world is composed of capitalist forms of making wealth. But beyond this broad consensus, there is a massive amount of creative disagreement on the pages of Kafila, since there is in fact a rich and complex reality of economic systems beyond capitalism, some of which identify formally as socialist and many which don&#8217;t. You in fact are guilty of DOGMA (to borrow the owl&#8217;s love for capslock) since while you are perfectly willing to see capitalism as a diverse system, with hundreds of local variations and several gradations from &#8216;unchecked greed&#8217; to well, checked greed, I suppose; you are not willing to perform the same exercise for socialism. Oh no, socialism is gulags and Stalin and that tired old stereotype that Rex was so nice to share with us &#8211; socialism is the stupid, childish belief that people will produce wealth without incentive, or that once they produce wealth, they will give it away. No, sirs, a critique of capitalism does not spring from naivete; it springs from rage at its lies and illusions. As Aditya said, capitalists need to spend billions of dollars to convince us that without consuming and producing within this system, we are nothing, we cease to exist. Humans have existed before capitalism and will continue afterwards, if we don&#8217;t manage to destroy ourselves completely, that is. And please don&#8217;t tell me humans have always traded with each other, so capitalism is as old as civilisation. Even wikipedia won&#8217;t say that. Indeed, I think Aditya was being generous; a good wikipedia session would still produce a more complex and nuanced knowledge than the &#8216;arguments&#8217; displayed here.<br />
And of course not, sarcasm is certainly not required. But if you want to start the debate by your sweeping summary of an entire website and all its content in a couple of banal sentences, then sarcasm may be a better response than others that come to mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Arati Chokshi</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very important article on who and what really destroy Indian forests. Thank you.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Jashn-e-Azadi successfully screened at Delhi University despite right-wing threats &amp; police pressure: AISA by Usman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i can applaud your concern for having dialogue and being inclusive. but i must say in clear words that your reading of this particular situation is absolutely wrong. given the extremely simplistic view you&#039;ve taken i am assuming you are unaware of the role ABVP and Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena have played and continue to play on the Delhi University campus. they have a proud history of threatening and causing physical harm to organisers and participants of events they perceive to be against their politics, or morals, or even whims. 
from a progressive political perspective, it is indeed required, in my opinion, that many who stand with the right-wing, Hindutva forces like the ABVP and Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena (there is nothing so-called about this), be challenged to see and question what they stand for. the same applies to those associated with progressive efforts. and for this dialogue and debate is a must. but in the present context the question of a dialogue with these outfits simply does not arise. it is precisely the opportunity to discuss and debate the issue of kashmir that these outfits are bitterly against. the film screening was supposed to be a platform for this. your not recognising the fact that it is precisely the stifling of debate that these outfits stand for (regarding kashmir in the present case), leads you to make some baseless comments. they were not &#039;kept outside&#039;. they did not want anyone to come in for the screening, and if anyone did they threatened that they would come in and disrupt the proceedings. and the police sided with them! it was only through the efforts of the department of sociology, aisa and other students that the screening, for which over a hundred students turned up, was made possible.
whatever their stand on kashmir maybe, this event clearly shows the anti-democratic nature of these organisations, as well as their fear of an open and democratic ideas. there is nothing contagious about jashn-e-azadi!
and please dont lump the organisers of this screening with the ABVP and Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena by calling them &quot;the 2 extremes&quot;. if simply wanting to voice an opinion makes one an extremist then... well then you need a larger vocabulary.

i also want to briefly respond to your comment on the &#039;sanjay kak film that you&#039;ve seen.&#039; it is not anyone&#039;s problem if you think the idea of martyrdom and/or azadi, etc. is &#039;a dangerous thing&#039;. it is your problem. what jashn-e-azadi shows, and its not a boisterous film at all as i see it, is that there is a strong sentiment of &#039;azadi&#039; in the valley, which even after kashmir being converted into the most heavily militarised zone in the world (over 7,00,000 soldiers of the indian army are deployed there), continues to live on. the film was completed by 2007 when there was seeming calm in the valley. 2008 onwards we have witnessed this sentiment manifest itself through various acts of public protest and resistance (recall the stone-pelting incidents widely covered by the media). so if anything the film deserves our attention.

it is not my intention to ridicule you, but i will stick with my statements because i feel blunt statements are required. it is also our responsibility to see the part we are playing in inflicting upon the kashmiris what are unquestionably inhumane conditions. the indian state (and hence the army) acts in your name and mine. when we Indians think of kashmir we often ask the seemingly kind question - &#039;what is it that THEY want?&#039; . its high time we junk this question. kashmir, before anything else, for us indians is a question about ourselves. about how we decide to live and act together. i am quite sure there are many of us who do not want the army to brutalise lives of kashmiris in our name. once we understand that we can think about what &#039;THEY&#039; want.

(I am a student at the department of sociology at DU, and was present for the screening of &#039;jashn-e-azadi&#039;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can applaud your concern for having dialogue and being inclusive. but i must say in clear words that your reading of this particular situation is absolutely wrong. given the extremely simplistic view you&#8217;ve taken i am assuming you are unaware of the role ABVP and Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena have played and continue to play on the Delhi University campus. they have a proud history of threatening and causing physical harm to organisers and participants of events they perceive to be against their politics, or morals, or even whims.<br />
from a progressive political perspective, it is indeed required, in my opinion, that many who stand with the right-wing, Hindutva forces like the ABVP and Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena (there is nothing so-called about this), be challenged to see and question what they stand for. the same applies to those associated with progressive efforts. and for this dialogue and debate is a must. but in the present context the question of a dialogue with these outfits simply does not arise. it is precisely the opportunity to discuss and debate the issue of kashmir that these outfits are bitterly against. the film screening was supposed to be a platform for this. your not recognising the fact that it is precisely the stifling of debate that these outfits stand for (regarding kashmir in the present case), leads you to make some baseless comments. they were not &#8216;kept outside&#8217;. they did not want anyone to come in for the screening, and if anyone did they threatened that they would come in and disrupt the proceedings. and the police sided with them! it was only through the efforts of the department of sociology, aisa and other students that the screening, for which over a hundred students turned up, was made possible.<br />
whatever their stand on kashmir maybe, this event clearly shows the anti-democratic nature of these organisations, as well as their fear of an open and democratic ideas. there is nothing contagious about jashn-e-azadi!<br />
and please dont lump the organisers of this screening with the ABVP and Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena by calling them &#8220;the 2 extremes&#8221;. if simply wanting to voice an opinion makes one an extremist then&#8230; well then you need a larger vocabulary.</p>
<p>i also want to briefly respond to your comment on the &#8216;sanjay kak film that you&#8217;ve seen.&#8217; it is not anyone&#8217;s problem if you think the idea of martyrdom and/or azadi, etc. is &#8216;a dangerous thing&#8217;. it is your problem. what jashn-e-azadi shows, and its not a boisterous film at all as i see it, is that there is a strong sentiment of &#8216;azadi&#8217; in the valley, which even after kashmir being converted into the most heavily militarised zone in the world (over 7,00,000 soldiers of the indian army are deployed there), continues to live on. the film was completed by 2007 when there was seeming calm in the valley. 2008 onwards we have witnessed this sentiment manifest itself through various acts of public protest and resistance (recall the stone-pelting incidents widely covered by the media). so if anything the film deserves our attention.</p>
<p>it is not my intention to ridicule you, but i will stick with my statements because i feel blunt statements are required. it is also our responsibility to see the part we are playing in inflicting upon the kashmiris what are unquestionably inhumane conditions. the indian state (and hence the army) acts in your name and mine. when we Indians think of kashmir we often ask the seemingly kind question &#8211; &#8216;what is it that THEY want?&#8217; . its high time we junk this question. kashmir, before anything else, for us indians is a question about ourselves. about how we decide to live and act together. i am quite sure there are many of us who do not want the army to brutalise lives of kashmiris in our name. once we understand that we can think about what &#8216;THEY&#8217; want.</p>
<p>(I am a student at the department of sociology at DU, and was present for the screening of &#8216;jashn-e-azadi&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jashn-e-Azadi successfully screened at Delhi University despite right-wing threats &amp; police pressure: AISA by Pankaj Inquilabi</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/jashn-e-azadi-successfully-screened-at-delhi-university-despite-right-wing-hooligan-threats-and-police-pressureaisa/#comment-26343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pankaj Inquilabi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Rahul D'souza</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rahul D'souza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it the duty of a journalist to be sceptical of a report and not produce it as is? In this case the WSJ is as culpable as the Forest Department]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it the duty of a journalist to be sceptical of a report and not produce it as is? In this case the WSJ is as culpable as the Forest Department</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Ankit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ankit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your anger is misdirected. Blame the Forest Report not the Wall Street Journal from quoting from it.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Hartman de Souza</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26338</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Wow&quot; is all I can say after reading this!!!

&quot;And so, understand this before you colour victims as perpetrators, and perpetrators as the saviours of India’s forests&quot;, Aruna writes, &quot;it is not indigenous communities that are razing India’s canopy to the ground. It is because the Indian government refuses to recognzse and continues to violate customary rights and every progressive law in the book to favour of an economic policy that puts profit over people and their environment&quot;.

So bloody true.

In this context, I can do no more than draw all your attentions to Praful Bidwai&#039;s book, The Politics of Climate Change and the Global Crisis – Mortgaging Our Future (Orient BlackSwan, 2012). It is well worth a read. I post below, a review of the book I have just written for a publication:

For those who’ve seen him go from brilliant, rebellious student to icy cool, impassioned journalist, polished critic of the establishment to scholar activist still obsessively focused on the issues of justice and equity, Praful Bidwai’s recent book was just round the corner. 

It couldn’t have come at a better time in the history of this troubled planet that elites of the world, India included, have come a century closer to destroying in the name of ‘development’ (read ‘more luxurious lifestyles’), and ‘economic growth’ (read ‘even more money to consume even more’).  

Bidwai does to climate change what Miles Davis did to modern jazz, leaving Friedman’s unduly optimistic, US-Centred Hot, Flat and Crowded atonally plonking the white keys. 

No one seized of the rapid damage to the environment therefore, or the urgency of developing equitable policies and practices to protect increasingly disenfranchised peoples whose livelihoods depend on the earth, its forests and its limited water and energy sources, can afford to not read this book.

The sheer sweep of this rigorously researched study will keep anyone following the wider issues of the environment-development debate enthralled. It is not an easy read. Bidwai goes from the larger geopolitics militating against the earth to the hard but demystified facts of the snows melting and the oceans rising. He exposes the ponziness of carbon credits, argues forcibly for renewable energy alternatives, damns the pro-nuclear energy lobby yet again, and delivers such a stinging critique of the unbridled growth that successive Indian governments have embraced, that readers can be forgiven if they have to repeatedly go back a few pages. Such is horizon the book opens, it defies easy categorization.  

While there are those, head in sand, who parrot the imperatives of the free market, Bidwai reincarnates the earlier First World/Third World division to show how the battles to save the planet are not being fought. 

In the larger picture, he gives us the new actors, the Global North, like the earlier First World, giving to the rest of the world with one hand while stealing with the other; the Global South (now including the BASIC block, Brazil, South Africa, India and China, which, not surprisingly, now contribute to 55 per cent of the world’s emissions, and now do to earlier Third World nations in Africa what was once done unto them); then the new pariahs on the block, the Alliance of Small Island States, one fifth of the world total of countries and particularly vulnerable to the realities of climate change and rising sea levels; and, finally, the main focus of Bidwai’s attention, the Global Poor. 

Reporting from Durban, soon after the book appeared, Bidwai was to chillingly note:
 “Durban was the world’s last chance to make global greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions peak this decade, and breathe new life into the world’s sole legally binding climate agreement, the Kyoto Protocol, beyond 2012, when its first phase ends. Only thus could global warming be limited to the 1.5-to-2 degree Celsius ceiling (over preindustrial temperatures) that planet Earth can tolerate. That chance is lost.

“The world is now on course to 3 to 4 degree C, perhaps 5 degree C, warming by this century’s end or earlier. This spells destruction of billions of lives. Durban has sealed climate apartheid, under which rich polluters evade responsibility, but underprivileged people suffer the worst effects of climate change for which they are least responsible”.
This is a haunting refrain in the book. Bidwai strips those in New Delhi, politicians, ministers, policy makers, advisors and bureaucrats in no uncertain terms. Not only did they lose the plot in Durban a few weeks ago, they’ve actually had no plan the past many years other than maintaining high growth rates and praying for a trickle-down effect. Strongly recommended reading for them. 

As also those in our media who beat the tom-toms heralding the success at Durban and making out that India came out smelling of roses, or our new minister of environment and forests as she sits with templates of Rapid Environment Impact Assessment reports, gavel in her hand.

As Bidwai writes: “The global climate negotiations confront India with a huge challenge: reconciling the objectives of ‘development’ and poverty reduction with the global responsibility—and an obligation to its own citizens—to contribute to the fight against climate change. This entails combining developmental equity with environmental effectiveness imaginatively, a task never before attempted anywhere on such a scale. India has tried to rise to the challenge, somewhat reluctantly, and in ways that are awkward, inadequate, ambivalent, and even negative and obstructionist.”

Delivering the 11th ISRO-JNCASR Satish Dhawan Memorial Lecture in September 2010, reflecting on environment-development Debate, Jairam Ramesh, former environment minister asked us to accept the reality that there was a trade-off between growth and environment. 

“In arriving at decisions to untangle the trade-off,” he said, “three options present themselves—‘yes’, ‘yes but’ and ‘no’. The real problem is that the growth constituency is used to ‘yes’ and can live with ‘yes but’. It cries foul with ‘no’. The environment constituency exults with a ‘no’, grudgingly accepts the ‘yes but’ but cries foul with a ‘yes’. Therefore, one clear lesson is this--maximize the ‘yes, but’, where this is possible.”

When he reads Bidwai’s book, he may feel compelled to reassess that somewhat simplistic formulation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wow&#8221; is all I can say after reading this!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;And so, understand this before you colour victims as perpetrators, and perpetrators as the saviours of India’s forests&#8221;, Aruna writes, &#8220;it is not indigenous communities that are razing India’s canopy to the ground. It is because the Indian government refuses to recognzse and continues to violate customary rights and every progressive law in the book to favour of an economic policy that puts profit over people and their environment&#8221;.</p>
<p>So bloody true.</p>
<p>In this context, I can do no more than draw all your attentions to Praful Bidwai&#8217;s book, The Politics of Climate Change and the Global Crisis – Mortgaging Our Future (Orient BlackSwan, 2012). It is well worth a read. I post below, a review of the book I have just written for a publication:</p>
<p>For those who’ve seen him go from brilliant, rebellious student to icy cool, impassioned journalist, polished critic of the establishment to scholar activist still obsessively focused on the issues of justice and equity, Praful Bidwai’s recent book was just round the corner. </p>
<p>It couldn’t have come at a better time in the history of this troubled planet that elites of the world, India included, have come a century closer to destroying in the name of ‘development’ (read ‘more luxurious lifestyles’), and ‘economic growth’ (read ‘even more money to consume even more’).  </p>
<p>Bidwai does to climate change what Miles Davis did to modern jazz, leaving Friedman’s unduly optimistic, US-Centred Hot, Flat and Crowded atonally plonking the white keys. </p>
<p>No one seized of the rapid damage to the environment therefore, or the urgency of developing equitable policies and practices to protect increasingly disenfranchised peoples whose livelihoods depend on the earth, its forests and its limited water and energy sources, can afford to not read this book.</p>
<p>The sheer sweep of this rigorously researched study will keep anyone following the wider issues of the environment-development debate enthralled. It is not an easy read. Bidwai goes from the larger geopolitics militating against the earth to the hard but demystified facts of the snows melting and the oceans rising. He exposes the ponziness of carbon credits, argues forcibly for renewable energy alternatives, damns the pro-nuclear energy lobby yet again, and delivers such a stinging critique of the unbridled growth that successive Indian governments have embraced, that readers can be forgiven if they have to repeatedly go back a few pages. Such is horizon the book opens, it defies easy categorization.  </p>
<p>While there are those, head in sand, who parrot the imperatives of the free market, Bidwai reincarnates the earlier First World/Third World division to show how the battles to save the planet are not being fought. </p>
<p>In the larger picture, he gives us the new actors, the Global North, like the earlier First World, giving to the rest of the world with one hand while stealing with the other; the Global South (now including the BASIC block, Brazil, South Africa, India and China, which, not surprisingly, now contribute to 55 per cent of the world’s emissions, and now do to earlier Third World nations in Africa what was once done unto them); then the new pariahs on the block, the Alliance of Small Island States, one fifth of the world total of countries and particularly vulnerable to the realities of climate change and rising sea levels; and, finally, the main focus of Bidwai’s attention, the Global Poor. </p>
<p>Reporting from Durban, soon after the book appeared, Bidwai was to chillingly note:<br />
 “Durban was the world’s last chance to make global greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions peak this decade, and breathe new life into the world’s sole legally binding climate agreement, the Kyoto Protocol, beyond 2012, when its first phase ends. Only thus could global warming be limited to the 1.5-to-2 degree Celsius ceiling (over preindustrial temperatures) that planet Earth can tolerate. That chance is lost.</p>
<p>“The world is now on course to 3 to 4 degree C, perhaps 5 degree C, warming by this century’s end or earlier. This spells destruction of billions of lives. Durban has sealed climate apartheid, under which rich polluters evade responsibility, but underprivileged people suffer the worst effects of climate change for which they are least responsible”.<br />
This is a haunting refrain in the book. Bidwai strips those in New Delhi, politicians, ministers, policy makers, advisors and bureaucrats in no uncertain terms. Not only did they lose the plot in Durban a few weeks ago, they’ve actually had no plan the past many years other than maintaining high growth rates and praying for a trickle-down effect. Strongly recommended reading for them. </p>
<p>As also those in our media who beat the tom-toms heralding the success at Durban and making out that India came out smelling of roses, or our new minister of environment and forests as she sits with templates of Rapid Environment Impact Assessment reports, gavel in her hand.</p>
<p>As Bidwai writes: “The global climate negotiations confront India with a huge challenge: reconciling the objectives of ‘development’ and poverty reduction with the global responsibility—and an obligation to its own citizens—to contribute to the fight against climate change. This entails combining developmental equity with environmental effectiveness imaginatively, a task never before attempted anywhere on such a scale. India has tried to rise to the challenge, somewhat reluctantly, and in ways that are awkward, inadequate, ambivalent, and even negative and obstructionist.”</p>
<p>Delivering the 11th ISRO-JNCASR Satish Dhawan Memorial Lecture in September 2010, reflecting on environment-development Debate, Jairam Ramesh, former environment minister asked us to accept the reality that there was a trade-off between growth and environment. </p>
<p>“In arriving at decisions to untangle the trade-off,” he said, “three options present themselves—‘yes’, ‘yes but’ and ‘no’. The real problem is that the growth constituency is used to ‘yes’ and can live with ‘yes but’. It cries foul with ‘no’. The environment constituency exults with a ‘no’, grudgingly accepts the ‘yes but’ but cries foul with a ‘yes’. Therefore, one clear lesson is this&#8211;maximize the ‘yes, but’, where this is possible.”</p>
<p>When he reads Bidwai’s book, he may feel compelled to reassess that somewhat simplistic formulation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Inasu Thalak/ poet,writer/. Paris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inasu Thalak/ poet,writer/. Paris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Destruction of forests and the wanton exploitation of natural resources are the prerequisites
for the kind of progress a l&#039;occidentale India (and other development-hungry regions) has
mis en route since independance. Our planning, educational syllabus and above all our
subliminal desire to have a &quot;good life&quot;- they all look up to the Western model. Which in the
say of some well-thinking specialists in Europe has come to a breathless point. The notion
of sustainable development as bandied around by the UN and its mercenaries is practisable
only in countries with large inhabited areas and thin population density. In France, there  is  
a school of thought that proposes &quot;de-growing economy&quot;! But the governments of the indu- 
strialized nations in the West will not tell that their model finally makes for the plunder and    pillage of Nature. And even if they try to dissuade us to follow their path, we will not now listen, because we have already set in motion citizen&#039;s desire to have comforts and con-
veniences like in the Western world, forgetting in the melee that our climes we do not need all that. If you want to see how wantonly Nature and Forests have been  raped and ravaged,
you only have to  visit Kerala which  had one third of its territory as pristine forests in 1957,  and now hardly 5% of its total territory as &quot;reserved forest area&quot;.Kerala could have used its
natural resources and uneven topography to imagine a daringly different development model:extensive water transport system with its numerous lakes, backwaters and canals. Even rivers could be navigable if we will to do so. Instead the Keralites have chosen to build
bridges and flyovers, roads along the ancient waterways, etc. Our governments, both in Delhi and in the states, ministers and experts with no vision and imagination, have failed to
define a development philosophy that suits our climate, landscapes, natural resources and  
peoples&#039; habitats. Like elsewhere in the Americas and in Asia. the tribal population has been the victims and loosers. Wall Street Journal has naturally no interest in pointing at the
governmental agencies for the debacle being encated with corporate connivance!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Destruction of forests and the wanton exploitation of natural resources are the prerequisites<br />
for the kind of progress a l&#8217;occidentale India (and other development-hungry regions) has<br />
mis en route since independance. Our planning, educational syllabus and above all our<br />
subliminal desire to have a &#8220;good life&#8221;- they all look up to the Western model. Which in the<br />
say of some well-thinking specialists in Europe has come to a breathless point. The notion<br />
of sustainable development as bandied around by the UN and its mercenaries is practisable<br />
only in countries with large inhabited areas and thin population density. In France, there  is<br />
a school of thought that proposes &#8220;de-growing economy&#8221;! But the governments of the indu-<br />
strialized nations in the West will not tell that their model finally makes for the plunder and    pillage of Nature. And even if they try to dissuade us to follow their path, we will not now listen, because we have already set in motion citizen&#8217;s desire to have comforts and con-<br />
veniences like in the Western world, forgetting in the melee that our climes we do not need all that. If you want to see how wantonly Nature and Forests have been  raped and ravaged,<br />
you only have to  visit Kerala which  had one third of its territory as pristine forests in 1957,  and now hardly 5% of its total territory as &#8220;reserved forest area&#8221;.Kerala could have used its<br />
natural resources and uneven topography to imagine a daringly different development model:extensive water transport system with its numerous lakes, backwaters and canals. Even rivers could be navigable if we will to do so. Instead the Keralites have chosen to build<br />
bridges and flyovers, roads along the ancient waterways, etc. Our governments, both in Delhi and in the states, ministers and experts with no vision and imagination, have failed to<br />
define a development philosophy that suits our climate, landscapes, natural resources and<br />
peoples&#8217; habitats. Like elsewhere in the Americas and in Asia. the tribal population has been the victims and loosers. Wall Street Journal has naturally no interest in pointing at the<br />
governmental agencies for the debacle being encated with corporate connivance!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Kashmiri Pandits May Never Return to Kashmir: Raju Moza by Frisat</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/01/30/why-kashmiri-pandits-may-never-return-to-kashmir-raju-moza/#comment-26334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frisat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree to the essence  of the thought which  is some what resting between two lines in the article and do  knock at my celebrum with pitting force as I scratch my left shoulder. Blade . Borun Identity needs to recall and revisit the place in a shelf where an old book  is often caught eating  dust and mites smiling on the thought of new addition being released every bright night of the chitra month of the lunar calender.  Since Engagements are the only way out to be happy and living in this world , it is good and economical to visit the place of birth of ancestors as tourist than staking the morality  of secularism for a game of chess where in the sukunai mama shall be playing with all fair rules and the Yudishitra having to tease his mind by having to play fair only under the condition that his sight must read the same rules  in a mirror.  Business is itself a religion so is the computer science , mechanical engineering  and simply visiting KFC in a Maruti model car having Hundui tyers. Kuldeep - 09839853637 /34]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree to the essence  of the thought which  is some what resting between two lines in the article and do  knock at my celebrum with pitting force as I scratch my left shoulder. Blade . Borun Identity needs to recall and revisit the place in a shelf where an old book  is often caught eating  dust and mites smiling on the thought of new addition being released every bright night of the chitra month of the lunar calender.  Since Engagements are the only way out to be happy and living in this world , it is good and economical to visit the place of birth of ancestors as tourist than staking the morality  of secularism for a game of chess where in the sukunai mama shall be playing with all fair rules and the Yudishitra having to tease his mind by having to play fair only under the condition that his sight must read the same rules  in a mirror.  Business is itself a religion so is the computer science , mechanical engineering  and simply visiting KFC in a Maruti model car having Hundui tyers. Kuldeep &#8211; 09839853637 /34</p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Prakash</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prakash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://e360.yale.edu/feature/busting_the_forest_myths_people_as_part_of_the_solution/2495/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://e360.yale.edu/feature/busting_the_forest_myths_people_as_part_of_the_solution/2495/" rel="nofollow">http://e360.yale.edu/feature/busting_the_forest_myths_people_as_part_of_the_solution/2495/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What the Wall Street Journal Can&#8217;t See in India&#8217;s Forests: Aruna Chandrashekhar by Prakash</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/what-the-wall-street-journal-cant-see-in-indias-forests/#comment-26332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prakash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful article, Aruna. Facts are not always what the folks are interested in. It pays to play to the gallery!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful article, Aruna. Facts are not always what the folks are interested in. It pays to play to the gallery!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Abu Talha Moment: Sanjay Kak by FAROOQ JAN</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/15/my-abu-talha-moment-sanjay-kak/#comment-26331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAROOQ JAN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good keep it up sanjay]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good keep it up sanjay</p>
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		<title>Comment on The (&#8216;Quotation&#8217;) Gangs of Kerala by roopz</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2009/08/31/the-quotation-gangs-of-kerala/#comment-26330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roopz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well studied post.Good work]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well studied post.Good work</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jashn-e-Azadi successfully screened at Delhi University despite right-wing threats &amp; police pressure: AISA by asha kachru</title>
		<link>http://kafila.org/2012/02/17/jashn-e-azadi-successfully-screened-at-delhi-university-despite-right-wing-hooligan-threats-and-police-pressureaisa/#comment-26329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[asha kachru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[though there is no reasson to not allow any piece of work of social relevance to be shown and discussed, anywhere, particularly amongst youth, i find a bit too self centered and self praising what is happening here with sanjay kak&#039;s films. i would hace preffered it, if the so-called progressive forces had been able to motivate the so-called right wing, Hindutva forces to come inside and take part in the discussion, rather than what has happened, that they were kept outside and no discussion took place within the 2 extremes. sanjay kak&#039;s film, the one i have seen, gives too much importance to geelani likes and to martyrdom. it is a dangerous thing. we want our youth not to be mislead by anyone ideology, religious or political, but to develop the capacities to be critical and inquisitive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though there is no reasson to not allow any piece of work of social relevance to be shown and discussed, anywhere, particularly amongst youth, i find a bit too self centered and self praising what is happening here with sanjay kak&#8217;s films. i would hace preffered it, if the so-called progressive forces had been able to motivate the so-called right wing, Hindutva forces to come inside and take part in the discussion, rather than what has happened, that they were kept outside and no discussion took place within the 2 extremes. sanjay kak&#8217;s film, the one i have seen, gives too much importance to geelani likes and to martyrdom. it is a dangerous thing. we want our youth not to be mislead by anyone ideology, religious or political, but to develop the capacities to be critical and inquisitive.</p>
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